Black Copper Marans discussion thread
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Thanks Wynette, she is a beautiful girl and she is the one we will be ultrasounding hopefully Valentines day or the 15th.
Helena BTW, is very non TM in personality, she thinks the chickens are just the most fascinating creatures and she puppy bows them, wanting them to play! Its hilarious!
Some of my other girls have high prey drive
Helena BTW, is very non TM in personality, she thinks the chickens are just the most fascinating creatures and she puppy bows them, wanting them to play! Its hilarious!
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I don't know Lisa......I'm thinking cockerel.
I would be OK with that because that would mean I only messed up on 2 out of 9 chicks . . . That is like 20% wrong and the pros at the hatchery allow themselves a 10% error rate. . . .
I don't know Lisa......I'm thinking cockerel.
I would be OK with that because that would mean I only messed up on 2 out of 9 chicks . . . That is like 20% wrong and the pros at the hatchery allow themselves a 10% error rate. . . .
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Thank you
I wouldn't of done all this if Geebs hadn't started it. However, I am totally shocked at the amount of changes that happen over a 10 day period. . . I am noticing little things in the photos and then running over to confirm that it really is so in the chick. . . .
The mossiness that was so obnoxious at 9 days is fading already.
I can't wait to take the next set of photos and see how much they have changed.
Thank you
The mossiness that was so obnoxious at 9 days is fading already.
I can't wait to take the next set of photos and see how much they have changed.
Okay, finally my turn to submit some roo pics.
They are 16 weeks, hatchmates from UK lines.
One is much darker, and has put all his resources into his frame as he is much bulkier and his feathers are coming in very slowly. He also walks awkwardly and stands with his legs closer together even though he's broader than the other. His secondaries haven't come in yet, so he looks split-winged. I like his head and comb better than the other.
The lighter rooster was crowing at 7-8 weeks, and at 16 weeks is already doing his thing with the 20 week hens in his pen. His frame is more slight despite what the pictures may show, though his feet are bigger than the darker roo. He has put all his resources into his feathers rather than his frame. I'll post pics again in a few months when they even out and are more mature. I know that the dark roo is probably too dark to pair with correct hens. His copper is coming in very slowly.
Let me know what you might see in these two. Interesting note: The darker roo has lighter horn and clearer eyes. The lighter roo has eumelanin deposits in his left eye.
They are 16 weeks, hatchmates from UK lines.
One is much darker, and has put all his resources into his frame as he is much bulkier and his feathers are coming in very slowly. He also walks awkwardly and stands with his legs closer together even though he's broader than the other. His secondaries haven't come in yet, so he looks split-winged. I like his head and comb better than the other.
The lighter rooster was crowing at 7-8 weeks, and at 16 weeks is already doing his thing with the 20 week hens in his pen. His frame is more slight despite what the pictures may show, though his feet are bigger than the darker roo. He has put all his resources into his feathers rather than his frame. I'll post pics again in a few months when they even out and are more mature. I know that the dark roo is probably too dark to pair with correct hens. His copper is coming in very slowly.
Let me know what you might see in these two. Interesting note: The darker roo has lighter horn and clearer eyes. The lighter roo has eumelanin deposits in his left eye.
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BUT since the one is so o o o dark, should it have matching dark shanks and darker eyes. . .
Since, the colors aren't matching - - isn't that indictive of something going on here ? ? ?
BUT since the one is so o o o dark, should it have matching dark shanks and darker eyes. . .
Since, the colors aren't matching - - isn't that indictive of something going on here ? ? ?
Here are some updated baby pictures. Please let me know what you think about these chicks, particularly as to gender at this time. Most of them are 3 weeks old but chick in the last photo is two weeks old.
These are 3 wk old chicks:
This chick is two weeks old:
These are 3 wk old chicks:
This chick is two weeks old:
Those are very nice ....... that first one looks like he's one of the "Rough Riders" ........
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Well, conventional logic would say yes. But eye color is a HUGE mystery still, even with the experts. It just has not been studied well, and as I mentioned when I first posted on this thread, why don't all those overdark hens have dark eyes? I don't see a correlation between eye color and melanization in BCM.
The Id gene that inhibits shank melanization in BCM works pretty well. Males get a double dose, so it does a good job of lightening the shanks and evening out differences between birds of different melanization levels. They have gray still in there, and I don't think pale shanks on a dark bird is an indicator of eWh cross unless they are that clear pink. That's just my opinion though.
I have some wheatens and whites that I am growing out right now, they're just 10 days old now. I'm seeing variation in the shanks already. Wheatens are clear shanked right from the beginning, the whites are recessive white on E with Id. So some of them are still showing some blue/grey in their shanks right now.
Well, conventional logic would say yes. But eye color is a HUGE mystery still, even with the experts. It just has not been studied well, and as I mentioned when I first posted on this thread, why don't all those overdark hens have dark eyes? I don't see a correlation between eye color and melanization in BCM.
The Id gene that inhibits shank melanization in BCM works pretty well. Males get a double dose, so it does a good job of lightening the shanks and evening out differences between birds of different melanization levels. They have gray still in there, and I don't think pale shanks on a dark bird is an indicator of eWh cross unless they are that clear pink. That's just my opinion though.
I have some wheatens and whites that I am growing out right now, they're just 10 days old now. I'm seeing variation in the shanks already. Wheatens are clear shanked right from the beginning, the whites are recessive white on E with Id. So some of them are still showing some blue/grey in their shanks right now.
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