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Cams are pretty recent....didn't readily have those things a few years ago.
My personal encountere with those 'big' coyotes, actually say them, were 20-30 yrs ago. The dead ones in the truck..the hunter had called up and shot all of the in one morning in one patch of woods, was back then. Along the same time, a woman here with dairy goats, it got so bad that on her little 15 acre place, surrounded by larger pastures and timber lands, she could only let them out to graze if she stayed out there with them. A hunter came in, shot one, hung it on her back fence, told her leave it there. She was upset because he was ready yo leave after just that one. But that's all it took, she was ok for several years. That won't work with a coyote, I am told, but it will with wolves. Near her, we had some cows on an 80 acre pasture. Checked around 5 pm, noticed big black baldy cow, at least 1200 lbs, standing a little off from the herd, on a little knoll. Figured she'd have a calf by next morning. 9 am next morning, i drive in there, there's a bare beaten circle on that knoll, around her stripped to bones carcass. I dont keep cows now, but cattlemen still have that happen.
The wolves, they used to come up here more, we're about 12 miles from the big Trinity river bottom..we'd hear them...there was a pattern,,,,get to seeing lots of deer, been hearing lots of coyotes, suddenly, no coyotes, and you're hearing wolves instead. And they very definitely don't sound like 'big' coyotes, either! Soon as deer thinned out again, wolves would leave, coyotes come back. Haven't heard wolves here in 3 or 4 yrs. But a change in coyotes, they are staying packed up pretty much year round now, that's odd it seems to me. And no small game to be seen. Walked out on a bobcat in my back yard a couple months ago one night, not 15 ft from my back door. I had cleaned out the freezer that day, laid several packages of freezer burned meat out there, intending to take them later, wrap them up and seal it in the trash cans. I forgot. Stupid. That was what the bobcat was on. My dog, mostly in house, reacts with different voice and body language to different things, different kinds of predators. I actually opened that back door becasue she was acting exactly as she had an evening a few months before when a then unknown predator took my 8 mo cat literally right out from under my house,,heard it but couldn't get out there in time. I would just let her out of the house a few minutes in the evneing, she stayed close, it was just dusk..According to my dog, THIS thing, the bobcat, was what had gotten the cat.
I'd like to get a hunter here..problem i only have 2 1/2 acres, fronting a state highway. I am surrounded on two sides by large cattle pasture, bounded on the other by huge tract with band of forst then pasture, and large tract of thicket-grown young pine forest across the highway. These other large land owns haven't been agreeable to getting hunters in, they are recent 'immigrants' from the city, don't want nobody they don't know on their places with guns! Might shoot a cow! Stupid. The only way they can get calves is pull cows into their home yards at calving, not turn them back out till they are bigger, then make sure all the cows are up at the barns for feed before dark! No way to live! Oh well.
My personal encountere with those 'big' coyotes, actually say them, were 20-30 yrs ago. The dead ones in the truck..the hunter had called up and shot all of the in one morning in one patch of woods, was back then. Along the same time, a woman here with dairy goats, it got so bad that on her little 15 acre place, surrounded by larger pastures and timber lands, she could only let them out to graze if she stayed out there with them. A hunter came in, shot one, hung it on her back fence, told her leave it there. She was upset because he was ready yo leave after just that one. But that's all it took, she was ok for several years. That won't work with a coyote, I am told, but it will with wolves. Near her, we had some cows on an 80 acre pasture. Checked around 5 pm, noticed big black baldy cow, at least 1200 lbs, standing a little off from the herd, on a little knoll. Figured she'd have a calf by next morning. 9 am next morning, i drive in there, there's a bare beaten circle on that knoll, around her stripped to bones carcass. I dont keep cows now, but cattlemen still have that happen.
The wolves, they used to come up here more, we're about 12 miles from the big Trinity river bottom..we'd hear them...there was a pattern,,,,get to seeing lots of deer, been hearing lots of coyotes, suddenly, no coyotes, and you're hearing wolves instead. And they very definitely don't sound like 'big' coyotes, either! Soon as deer thinned out again, wolves would leave, coyotes come back. Haven't heard wolves here in 3 or 4 yrs. But a change in coyotes, they are staying packed up pretty much year round now, that's odd it seems to me. And no small game to be seen. Walked out on a bobcat in my back yard a couple months ago one night, not 15 ft from my back door. I had cleaned out the freezer that day, laid several packages of freezer burned meat out there, intending to take them later, wrap them up and seal it in the trash cans. I forgot. Stupid. That was what the bobcat was on. My dog, mostly in house, reacts with different voice and body language to different things, different kinds of predators. I actually opened that back door becasue she was acting exactly as she had an evening a few months before when a then unknown predator took my 8 mo cat literally right out from under my house,,heard it but couldn't get out there in time. I would just let her out of the house a few minutes in the evneing, she stayed close, it was just dusk..According to my dog, THIS thing, the bobcat, was what had gotten the cat.
I'd like to get a hunter here..problem i only have 2 1/2 acres, fronting a state highway. I am surrounded on two sides by large cattle pasture, bounded on the other by huge tract with band of forst then pasture, and large tract of thicket-grown young pine forest across the highway. These other large land owns haven't been agreeable to getting hunters in, they are recent 'immigrants' from the city, don't want nobody they don't know on their places with guns! Might shoot a cow! Stupid. The only way they can get calves is pull cows into their home yards at calving, not turn them back out till they are bigger, then make sure all the cows are up at the barns for feed before dark! No way to live! Oh well.
A local trapper would probaly be glad to take care of the bobcat etc I have found when you show pictures of the long tail cats or wolf from a game cam they change thier tune t6o oh we "might" have a few LOLOL