blue laced red wyondottes

[Blisschick]

Yeah, it has to do with the number of birds shown at any one show, and how many shows across the U.S. have them. I forget the exact details of that.

 

[Picco]

I bought BLRWs from valentine hatchery in Florida. They have beautiful color and lacing but have a few problems. I had four pullets with leg problems and one with cross beak. I don't know if those problems are genetic or incubator related though. I still have six pullets that are perfectly fine.

 

[pipermark]

You can still show your Rooster, most shows, even APA approved will consider best in breed and best in variety, even for non APA approved varieties (the breed must be recognized though).

I use to show my BLRW, I think that it helps when trying to get a new variety approved by the APA to bring these birds to shows. Once the judges start seeing birds that meet the standards and a consistent feather coloring, they are more apt to agree to enter the variety in the book. The BLW is an approved variety in most of Europe and Australia, I think it is also approved in the Bantam form but not sure.

I want to address this "out crossing notion" , bringing new genetics into your breeding flock by including a bird from the original combination of breeds that brought about the breed or variety is not only acceptable breeding behavior, but it is essential to reducing the amount of problems that inline breeding can create, especially when you have a limited supply of initial bloodline.

What happened with the BLW was simply greed. Instead of setting a standard, an then breeding back to that standard, anything with the original BLW line in it was sold as BLRW. I have seen people bring birds to shows that for all intense and purposes are Golden Laced Wyandotes, and list them as BLRW. I have also seen pictures posted to web sites like these that have the same problem. I have witnessed bird with Cochin style combs promoted, and used in breeding programs , rather than culled or made into pet birds (Cochins were used to create several of the wyandotte varsities because their body style is very similar to what you want in a Wyandotte)

If you want to see what they should look like , in the US, you can find the coloration on the bantam wyandottess.

Until breeders take the responsibility to only promote birds that meet the color and lacing standards, the standard BLW , will not be accepted into the APA.

Thats my story and I am sticking to it.

 

[blue90292]

thanks everyone. i'm going to go ahead and take my cockeral to the show and see how he does, then....

thanks again!'

michele

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

Ok, they are not accepted in either bantam or large fowl in the APA or ABA. They have white laced red in the ABA. When you cross 2 blr together you get 50% blr, 25% splash laced red, and 25% black laced red(dark gold laced). The mating is just like in normal blue chickens. Many people are selecting for the darkest red and not caring about type. It has been said before: You have to build the barn first, then paint it. In other words, without type, you just have a blue laced red bird that is a bad representative of the breed. What we did to improve our birds was we bred a splash laced red roo to a solid black hen with great type. We kept all the pullets with good type from that and crossed them back to the sire. We then kept backcrossing to the sire and only kept the birds with both good type and good color.

 

[Blisschick]

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It's unfortunate that you bought them from him. His stock is not what he claims it to be. He says he got his stock from Greg Katt, when in fact he did not. Greg refused to sell to him because of his business practices. He's caused a lot of grief for sincere breeders.

 

[seedcorn]

thinking of getting some fro ideal hatchery. Those that have them,especially bantams, post pictures.....please