Breed
- Thread starter Slava
- Start date
All chicks should be black and barred with brown red leakage
Is the rooster pictured a black rock hybrid?
- Thread starter
- #4
- Thread starter
- #5
Hi I'm new in poultry and want to try breeding I got pure breed leghorn (white leghorn paternal and cockoo leghorn maternal )he is large fowl and hen hybrid Blackrock which I buy in freewaypoutry.com Blackrock hen is the result of crossing Rhode Island Red paternal stock with Barred Plymouth Rock maternal stock.
Any idea what will be and is it good idea ?
Thank you for your advice
King regards
Slava
Any idea what will be and is it good idea ?
Thank you for your advice
King regards
Slava
All chicks should be black and barred with brown red leakage. They should lay pretty good
- Thread starter
- #7
Are you sure? He's a mixed color at least, and barred leghorns are pretty much nonexistent in the US unless you happen to be a breeder with them
Hi, Slava. Welcome to the forum. Glad you joined.
I'll probably confuse this more. We can't agree on what words mean. Breed is a good example. Some people feel that a chicken belongs to a breed if it meets all of the requirements of the Standard of Perfection for that breed except color/pattern. The color/pattern are just colors and patterns that have been recognized so far. Others feel that they are not a representative of the breed unless they meet all the other requirements as well as meet a recognized color/pattern.
A lot of confusion comes from each country having its own Standard or Perfection. They can have very different requirements for a "breed". The Araucana is a good example. There can be several differences between what is called an Araucana in the UK and what is called an Araucana in the US. In the US an Araucana will not have a tail. In the UK it is OK if they do or don't have a tail. There are a lot of breeds with different requirements in different countries. Different countries also approve different colors and patterns. A color/pattern approved in the UK or Brazil may not be approved in South Africa or the US. When people in different countries start nitpicking about breeds they may not be talking about the same bird.
Your rooster is a cross between a white leghorn rooster and a Cuckoo Leghorn hen. From the father he inherited Dominant White and a solid black base. From his mother he got barring and I'm not sure what base color. Cuckoo often refers to black with white spots but can also be red with black spots. I found where the American Poultry Association had recognized a Cuckoo Leghorn color/pattern but I could not find a description of it. In theory your rooster should be solid white but in reality other colors and patterns often leak through. Yours shows a lot of leakage. That is not unusual.
Your hen has a RIR father and a Barred Rock mother. Your hen did not inherit any barring from her mother. In theory she should be solid black but it is not unusual for her to have some leakage from the other color genetics.
As for the colors and patterns you are crossing crosses. That can lead to a lot of different colors and patterns in the offspring. Your rooster should give half his offspring Dominant White, which will turn any normally black feather white. Half of his offspring will not get that. Half of his offspring will get barring. He will give half of his offspring black and the other half red if that cuckoo is red. It that cuckoo is black (probably is) all of his offspring will get black.
The hen will give half of her offspring red genetics and the other half black. Assuming the cuckoo grandparent is black based, half of the chicks should be solid white (from the Dominant White). 1/4 should be black barred. 1/4 should be solid black. Expect some leakage.
If that cuckoo is red based (normally I'd say probably not but the photo you showed is really interesting) then you can get a real mix of colors and patterns. There are a lot of different ways they could go together.
For fun, here are supposed to be a few of the approved color/patterns of Leghorns from the APA. A lot of these I have never seen.
I'll probably confuse this more. We can't agree on what words mean. Breed is a good example. Some people feel that a chicken belongs to a breed if it meets all of the requirements of the Standard of Perfection for that breed except color/pattern. The color/pattern are just colors and patterns that have been recognized so far. Others feel that they are not a representative of the breed unless they meet all the other requirements as well as meet a recognized color/pattern.
A lot of confusion comes from each country having its own Standard or Perfection. They can have very different requirements for a "breed". The Araucana is a good example. There can be several differences between what is called an Araucana in the UK and what is called an Araucana in the US. In the US an Araucana will not have a tail. In the UK it is OK if they do or don't have a tail. There are a lot of breeds with different requirements in different countries. Different countries also approve different colors and patterns. A color/pattern approved in the UK or Brazil may not be approved in South Africa or the US. When people in different countries start nitpicking about breeds they may not be talking about the same bird.
Your rooster is a cross between a white leghorn rooster and a Cuckoo Leghorn hen. From the father he inherited Dominant White and a solid black base. From his mother he got barring and I'm not sure what base color. Cuckoo often refers to black with white spots but can also be red with black spots. I found where the American Poultry Association had recognized a Cuckoo Leghorn color/pattern but I could not find a description of it. In theory your rooster should be solid white but in reality other colors and patterns often leak through. Yours shows a lot of leakage. That is not unusual.
Your hen has a RIR father and a Barred Rock mother. Your hen did not inherit any barring from her mother. In theory she should be solid black but it is not unusual for her to have some leakage from the other color genetics.
As for the colors and patterns you are crossing crosses. That can lead to a lot of different colors and patterns in the offspring. Your rooster should give half his offspring Dominant White, which will turn any normally black feather white. Half of his offspring will not get that. Half of his offspring will get barring. He will give half of his offspring black and the other half red if that cuckoo is red. It that cuckoo is black (probably is) all of his offspring will get black.
The hen will give half of her offspring red genetics and the other half black. Assuming the cuckoo grandparent is black based, half of the chicks should be solid white (from the Dominant White). 1/4 should be black barred. 1/4 should be solid black. Expect some leakage.
If that cuckoo is red based (normally I'd say probably not but the photo you showed is really interesting) then you can get a real mix of colors and patterns. There are a lot of different ways they could go together.
For fun, here are supposed to be a few of the approved color/patterns of Leghorns from the APA. A lot of these I have never seen.
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Rose Comb Black | Mediterranean |
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Single Comb Black | Mediterranean |
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Rose Comb Buff | Mediterranean |
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Single Comb Buff | Mediterranean |
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Rose Comb Dark Brown | Mediterranean |
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Single Comb Dark Brown | Mediterranean |
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Rose Comb Light Brown | Mediterranean |
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Single Comb Light Brown | Mediterranean |
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Rose Comb Silver | Mediterranean |
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Single Comb Silver | Mediterranean |
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Rose Comb White | Mediterranean |
| Large Fowl | Leghorn | Single Comb White | Mediterranean |
- Thread starter
- #10
Similar threads
New posts New threads Active threads
-
Latest threads
-
-
-
Hen or rooster Buff Orpington at 4 weeks old? Any ideas please....- Started by Minniepaws216
- Replies: 1
-
-
Threads with more replies in the last 15 days
-
Challenges of living in the woods with chickens
- Started by Carontheroad
- Replies: 169
-
Moderator Appreciation 2025- Started by Nifty-Chicken
- Replies: 99
-
-
-
Investigating Problems Uploading Images to the Gallery & Posts- Started by casportpony
- Replies: 62
-
