Breeding Dutch Hookbills

[rainy day ducks]

Hello! I am new to Dutch Hookbills. I understand there are three color variations to the breed; the dusky, bibbed, and white. Does anyone know if you breed two bibbed will you get a mixture of the color variations or just bibbed? Can you breed a white with a dusky and get a bibbed? I am curious about their genetics.

Anyone have experience breeding Hookbills?

 

[Eroc1_1]

I wish I had an answer for you. I know that a couple people have Dutch Hookbills and raise them on here. I will hopefully be getting some in June from Holderreads.

 

[bookerdog]

Sorry have no answers as well. I have 12 in the incubator now. Hope to see some later this week.

 

[Eroc1_1]

You might be able to do a search on this site for 'Dutch Hookbills' and find a few of the people that do have them...

 

[Stormy Autumn]

I think they have the same color genes as any other mallard-type duck, so if you just do a general search for duck color genetic information you should be able to apply it to your Hookbills.

 

[Sweetfolly]

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Exactly. Hookbills are Dusky based (m^d m^d), and the Bibbed version has a recessive bib (as opposed to a dominant bib, which is linked to Extended Black). Dusky x Dusky should give you all solid Dusky ducklings, unless both of the parents are carrying a Bibbed gene, which could give you about 25% Bibbed ducklings. Bibbed Dusky x Bibbed Dusky is going to give you all Bibbed Dusky ducklings. Solid Dusky over a Bibbed Dusky should give you all solid Dusky ducklings (carrying a Bibbed gene), unless the solid Dusky parent was carrying a Bibbed gene, in which case you'd get about 50% solid Dusky and 50% Bibbed Dusky ducklings.

And then, as far as White...White is a double-dose of a recessive gene that masks the underlying color. So, in the case of Hookbills, the white is either masking Dusky or Bibbed Dusky. When you breed a white to a solid Dusky you're going to get solid Dusky ducklings, who will all be carrying a dose of the recessive White gene (and possibly a Bibbed gene as well, depending on whether or not the White parent was Bibbed "underneath" the White) - UNLESS the original solid Dusky parent was carrying a single dose of the recessive White gene, in which case about 50% of the ducklings would hatch white as well, and the other 50% would be Dusky, carrying a single White gene. If you breed those resulting Dusky ducklings together, you'll get about 25% White ducklings, 25% pure Dusky ducklings, and 50% Dusky ducklings carrying one copy of the White gene. The trouble is, you can't tell the "pure" Dusky ducklings from those that are carrying the White. The same rules apply if you breed a White to a Bibbed - you'll get Dusky ducklings (carrying White and Bibbed) if the White parent was solid Dusky "underneath" the White, you'll get all Bibbed ducklings (carrying White) if the White parent was Bibbed "underneath" the White, and in either case you'll get 50% White ducklings if the Bibbed parent was carrying White.

Make sense?

 

[rainy day ducks]

Thanks very much. This is exactly the answer I was looking and hoping for! All the Hookbills I currently have are Holderread SQ bibbed. I am interested in raising the other color variations within the next year. It is highly likely I will be contacting you next late winter regarding Hookbill hatching eggs or ducklings! I really like the beautiful Holderread dusky female you have a picture of! What a beautiful hooked bill!

Do you see any differences in the Sandhill vs Holderread strains? Are they about the same size? D. Holderread told me that the Hookbill tends to get smaller. He has been trying to select Hookbills on the larger size. I was just curious if it looked like Sandhill was doing the same or if their Hookbills were smaller.

Thanks again for taking the time to explain the genetics to me!