***breeding fawn modern game rooster to self blue modern game hens***

[austinhart123]

i have a modern game trio and the male is fawn and the females are splash.

they hatched four of their eggs early spring and all the chicks were gre-blue or solid black, but they died young so i didnt see how they feathered out.

well one of the hens is broody on 15 eggs and the other one isnt far behind.

i am pretty sure the babies will be splash or

black like last time

what should i expect for next season when the chicks breed (i am most likely going to sell the black ones) and what which ones would you reccomend breeding together?

 

[austinhart123]

here are the parents

here are the babies

ETA: this pic of them as babies

 

[Henk69]

The male/sire looks like chocolate/dun and the females/dams look like khaki (or maybe lavender) to me.

If the hens are khaki then you will get 50% chocolate/dun and 50% khaki.

You will never breed a black from a splash (or khaki) parent.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

So if male is dun and females are lavender that wouldn't prevent black would it?

Austin, why is the title of this thread so very different than the first statement in your original post?

 

[austinhart123]

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if you look at the blurry pic of the hen and her chicks, the one behind her is black, and he was bought from ideal poultry, idt they have chocolate/dun, i never even heard of it before, everyone says he is a fawn, but if you have pics of a chocolate/ dun, please show me, and i think the hens are self blue (thats what they were sold to me as) and i think thats the same thing as lavender, and whats khaki, is it like lavendar, do you have pics?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

fawn is the variety name for OEGB, however genetically it is created with the dun gene. One copy of dun gives a chocolate bird, two copies gives a khaki bird. I am not sure whether fawn is one copy or two, but I would guess two as it is a pretty light colour.

Yes, in the US self-blue is lavender.

 

[austinhart123]

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EHHHHHHH, i dont get it

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Variety names were originally given based upon the appearance of a bird. Many of these variety names have been around for a hundred or more years. Some probably for a number of hundreds of years.

Meanwhile a wealth of genetic information about chickens has been acquired through research. We know the genetic difference between different varieties, and with the information we now have, some of the names don't make a lot of sense. There are different breeds where the same genetic variety has different names, depending on the breed. And there are also cases where the same name is genetically different based upon the breed.

Fawn silver duckwing is the name of a variety. The genotype of the fawn is I^D/i+. That is the same genotype as dun or (dun-based) chocolate. They are all synonyms that mean the same thing genetically speaking; however for OEGB, fawn is the correct term, while with polish, chocolate is the correct term. Dun is a term used to distinguish the gene irself, but in the US is not a variety name.

So a chocolate coloured polish is I^D/i+. However, a chocolate wyandotte is based upon an entirely different gene: choc., and it's genotype is choc/choc.