Breeding for PERSONALITY. AKA Hello SWEET ROO!

Wheew sounds like you have quite a project there!
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Are your 'blue egg layers' Ameraucanas or Auracanas?
Your 'green egg layers' sound like EE's which are a hybrid Ameraucana, found in most hatcheries.
I am enjoying playing with the colored egg genes as well! I have both Ameraucanas and EE's and both have great quailities, although my EE roos have been quite aggressive and have been quickly sent to freezer camp.


It is hard to get a heritage breed bird, even a backyard cross, to fill out the way a hybrid 'meat' bird does. I plan to get a few CX again this year because I like them as roasting birds, but for the most part our meat will come from our caponized extra roos that don't make the cut for breeding.

infuse the brown egg layer male with my green egg laying hen, I should have a nice olive egg daughter.
For a 'true' olive egger most people cross an Ameraucana with a dark egg layer like the Marans!
I have EE girls and ordered 3 boys, two are beautiful skittish (been handling them more - it's helping) the 3rd red isn't aggressive however he's a feather picker. He (Red) is very sweet but will just randomly grab a feather of his flock mates and eat it! I've increased their protien and it has helped but I moved him into the grow out pen with the "boys." So maybe that's why, he doesn't do it anymore. Idk. Do you Caponize yourself? I've thought about it but I'm afraid. I'd like some Ameraucana's eventually but my EE girls are Awesome. If i was to cross my Marans the comb on him is Straight vs the pea comb, shouldn't I use a good pea comb male to get my darker green w/o the straight comb gene? I'm not stuck on pedigree but I'd like to sell some of my birds at some point so I thought I'd try to get a pea comb. I really like the tuff's and one of my EE males has really nice tuff's! But he's black and silver vs the partridge coloration of my current EE hen's so I'm not really sure that would work... Decisions Decisions
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I have EE girls and ordered 3 boys, two are beautiful skittish (been handling them more - it's helping) the 3rd red isn't aggressive however he's a feather picker. He (Red) is very sweet but will just randomly grab a feather of his flock mates and eat it! I've increased their protien and it has helped but I moved him into the grow out pen with the "boys." So maybe that's why, he doesn't do it anymore. Idk. Do you Caponize yourself? I've thought about it but I'm afraid. I'd like some Ameraucana's eventually but my EE girls are Awesome. If i was to cross my Marans the comb on him is Straight vs the pea comb, shouldn't I use a good pea comb male to get my darker green w/o the straight comb gene? I'm not stuck on pedigree but I'd like to sell some of my birds at some point so I thought I'd try to get a pea comb. I really like the tuff's and one of my EE males has really nice tuff's! But he's black and silver vs the partridge coloration of my current EE hen's so I'm not really sure that would work... Decisions Decisions
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I'm honestly not certain on the comb genes. I am still learning on the breeding part of it. I know the egg color genes mostly blend, I am learning on feather coloration still. I just started breeding this year, and have chosen to work with Ameraucana as well as EE's, English Orpingtons, and after the first of the year I am getting some Scots Dumpys.

Yes, I do caponize myself. I was very lucky to have a practiced teacher nearby, got hands on course, tools and much needed support for a forgotten art. It is not for everyone, but I felt it was an important skill! I will be selling Capons in the Spring, I think it would be a good alternative for those in the cities that can't have roos but would like the eye candy! They don't crow, breed, or show aggression!
 
MamaKitty: I'm guessing the Cuckoo you refer to IS a Marans. That should give you olive eggs.

In a nut shell: Pea comb is dominant over straight. So Pea over straight will give 100% pea, but those chicks may carry a recessive for straight.
Pea over Rose = Walnut. Rose over straight (I think) = rose with recessive straight.

Blue eggs are dominant. When bred to a brown egg layer, you'll get a darker shade, most likely green or some shade of olive.
White egg + brown egg most likely will = lighter shade of brown.

I produced some beautiful, heavy, pea combed, black sex-link birds, which produce a lovely dark aqua/greenish egg from a EE x PBR cross. My long term goal is to produce a small combed auto-sexing bird which lays a green/blue egg.
 
I'm honestly not certain on the comb genes. I am still learning on the breeding part of it. I know the egg color genes mostly blend, I am learning on feather coloration still. I just started breeding this year, and have chosen to work with Ameraucana as well as EE's, English Orpingtons, and after the first of the year I am getting some Scots Dumpys.

Yes, I do caponize myself. I was very lucky to have a practiced teacher nearby, got hands on course, tools and much needed support for a forgotten art. It is not for everyone, but I felt it was an important skill! I will be selling Capons in the Spring, I think it would be a good alternative for those in the cities that can't have roos but would like the eye candy! They don't crow, breed, or show aggression!
Fascinating hobby!!! I have the chinese set but no one near and I haven't had the courage to do it on live birds. I really think I'm going to work on poulardizing. The pullets are much easier and I'm going to have a bunch. I had 10 super blue egg layer roosters but they are so agitated that caponization was impossible Leghorn breeds are not an option. They have heart attack from stress and die. So I gave them away. I'm breeding large White Plymouth Rocks as well as getting eggs (today) of Marraduna Basque. They are like a Buff colored Delaware. Totally terrific, so tame and friendly. I'd love Basque poulards because they go broody and will take over after hatch. I'm getting Lavender Australorp eggs in January and I'd bet they would capon great. As a pet for the people who love eye candy but can't have roosters.
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I don’t' think I could have done it without actually seeing it done first. It is nerve wracking enough to do it while knowing what to do!
Is poulardizing done through the same type of incision?
 
Too Funny....a breeding thread turns into a discussion on castrating cockerels and spaying pullets...
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Why would you want to spay a pullet?!?!

Need a new thread "De-Gender Your Chickens"!!
 
Too Funny....a breeding thread turns into a discussion on castrating cockerels and spaying pullets...
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Why would you want to spay a pullet?!?!

Need a new thread "De-Gender Your Chickens"!!
We have a caponizing thread!!! I am not sure on the poulardizing, that is not something I have the need for, but it is interesting!

I didn't want to make this about caponizing, but it is the way I handle the aggressive roo situation. I keep the quaility roos with good personalities intact, and caponize the others for meat or pets.

It is not a viable option for most people though, so breeding is the best way to go.
 
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Too Funny....a breeding thread turns into a discussion on castrating cockerels and spaying pullets...
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Why would you want to spay a pullet?!?!

Need a new thread "De-Gender Your Chickens"!!
Pullets are poulardized for the same reason cockerels usually are caponized. Meat.
 

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