BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

[ronott1]

You are both correct. That is a pic of a Tibetan Mastiff. I took it from the page for Ovcharkas. My error.



Here is a picture of the real thing.

Nice Dog!

 

[Turk Raphael]

Nice Dog!

I took this pic from the same page that I got the T.Mastiff pic. I actually KNEW it was a T.Mastiff because I had seen a bunch of them while attending dog shows with dad. When he got tired of AKC politics, he began showing his hounds in ARBA (American Rare Breed dog Assoc), based in Maryland. I decided to show the pic because it got my point across and in fact, I believe (but am not sure) the breeds are related, considering the geographical situation where they can be found. My Brother tells me he saw Ovcharkas in Afghanistan that were colored much like the T.M. pictured.

Dad had a friend in Maryland (Al Goldstein) who bred and showed the TMs. When Al died, his wife tried to give ALL the dogs, including an elaborate kennel complex to dad. I've often wished he had accepted, if only for the kennels. She wound up having all those nice dogs destroyed. Dad chose NOT to mess with them because of the great prevalence of HD in so many of the dogs that were in the USA at the time. Lots of trash had been shipped here and for a lot of money, with so many of the dogs being crippled and hardly able to walk.

 

[tridentk9]

in fact, I believe (but am not sure) the breeds are related, considering the geographical situation where they can be found.  My Brother tells me he saw Ovcharkas in Afghanistan that were colored much like the T.M. picture.

Tibetan Mastiff is behind almost all the current dog breeds. LOL- Or at least all the breeds that I pay attention to their lineage. There's an article somewhere on line that shows the lineage through DNA. All the Molossers, so that would include .... the French Bulldog

 

[LindaB220]

I have a pic of dad in one of those...no kidding. If I weren't counting on him for a lovely, long vacation, I'd post it! It is blue but just a funky looking! I still might do it!!!

Mid 70's I bought my ex a wonderful suit. It was beige with a large plaid of light blue going through it. We spent more on it than I had ever done before. Living the high style. I had some jewelry melted down an got a large hunk of gold that I had strung on a fairly large chain and gave it to him for Christmas. He still has it. I don't know if he still wears it.

He owns an electrical contracting company now so it might be too cheesy.

 

[Turk Raphael]

Mid 70's I bought my ex a wonderful suit. It was beige with a large plaid of light blue going through it. We spent more on it than I had ever done before. Living the high style. I had some jewelry melted down an got a large hunk of gold that I had strung on a fairly large chain and gave it to him for Christmas. He still has it. I don't know if he still wears it.

He owns an electrical contracting company now so it might be too cheesy.

No...He'd be right in style. Gaudy/ostentatious seems to be back in vogue.

 

[The Yakima Kid]

You are both correct. That is a pic of a Tibetan Mastiff. I took it from the page for Ovcharkas. My error.



Here is a picture of the real thing.

It looks like the bear that was trying to get into the neighbor's house.

 

[Turk Raphael]

It looks like the bear that was trying to get into the neighbor's house.

 

[Turk Raphael]

I took this pic from the same page that I got the T.Mastiff pic. I actually KNEW it was a T.Mastiff because I had seen a bunch of them while attending dog shows with dad. When he got tired of AKC politics, he began showing his hounds in ARBA (American Rare Breed dog Assoc), based in Maryland. I decided to show the pic because it got my point across and in fact, I believe (but am not sure) the breeds are related, considering the geographical situation where they can be found. My Brother tells me he saw Ovcharkas in Afghanistan that were colored much like the T.M. pictured.

Dad had a friend in Maryland (Al Goldstein) who bred and showed the TMs. When Al died, his wife tried to give ALL the dogs, including an elaborate kennel complex to dad. I've often wished he had accepted, if only for the kennels. She wound up having all those nice dogs destroyed. Dad chose NOT to mess with them because of the great prevalence of HD in so many of the dogs that were in the USA at the time. Lots of trash had been shipped here and for a lot of money, with so many of the dogs being crippled and hardly able to walk.

Correction...It was Al Goldsmith

 

[Turk Raphael]

You folks who like beef had better get your freezers full NOW. Dad's beef went for $2.20 per pound on the hoof this year. I won't try to extrapolate that out but the buyers will take all the stock they buy from back East to the fattening yards in Iowa where they'll add another thousand pounds to it. Every move or 'flinch' they make from start to finish will add a few pennies per pound.

Dad thinks cheap hamburger might cost $10.00 a pound, this time next year. ($9.99)

I really don't like having pigs around because they just about worked me to death when I was a kid but I'm giving some real thought to looking into a trio of a certain kind of pigs. Chicken is our primary meat but we both like pork. We have the facility and might regret it if we fail to at least give it a go.

I'm now glad I learned how to butcher (as well as scald/scrape) porkers when I was a kid. It used to make me mad when grandpa made me help with the farm work when all my friends were out riding bikes and having a grand ol' time....I guess that old bird knew what he was talking about when he said "one day, you'll thank me"...

 

[RedRidge]

You folks who like beef had better get your freezers full NOW.  Dad's beef went for $2.20 per pound on the hoof this year.  I won't try to extrapolate that out but the buyers will take all the stock they buy from back East to the fattening yards in Iowa where they'll add another thousand pounds to it.  Every move or 'flinch' they make from start to finish will add a few pennies per pound.  

Dad thinks cheap hamburger might cost $10.00 a pound, this time next year.  ($9.99)

I really don't like having pigs around because they just about worked me to death when I was a kid but I'm giving some real thought to looking into a trio of a certain kind of pigs.  Chicken is our primary meat but we both like pork. We have the facility and might regret it if we fail to at least give it a go.

I'm now glad I learned how to butcher (as well as scald/scrape) porkers when I was a kid.  It used to make me mad when grandpa made me help with the farm work when all my friends were out riding bikes and having a grand ol' time....I guess that old bird knew what he was talking about when he said "one day, you'll thank me"...

And THIS is one of many reasons we raise our own. ;-)