BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

[ronott1]

So this may be a stupid question, but if they slaughter the survivors, how is the species supposed to build immunity? It seems that birds that can survive would be valuable. Im no immunologist but...?

I understand that they want to keep it from spreading. Why not quarantine?

The commercial poultry flocks have little resistance and will not ever have it. they are so genetically alike that the avian flu could wipe out all of them.

Our backyard flocks would have some resistance but the rules are made to protect the big guys as usual.

 

[Beer can]

Doesn't sound like a stupid question to me. You have a good point. To me breeding resistant birds if there is such a thing would be a much better cure than developing a vaccine or whatever.
I kinda imagine those birds are not resistant, just not sick yet. I would think and hope big players are involved in this whole thing, you would think so anyway with million$ of dollars lost and multi-million$ more at stake.

 

[chickadoodles]

Most of the birds being hit the hardest are the turkey. I only have my turkey and layer flock now. My NPIP Agent was just out last week and I have my turkey pens covered so I am hoping that I will not have any problems here. Butter Ball has flocks in many countries so they will get hit but not nearly as hard as most. there are over 310,000. turkey in Minnesota waiting to be destroyed as MN. has had 9 turkey farms hit so far.

 

[hellbender]

I understand the depth of the last few posts and realize what a crap-shoot the whole mess is but I just am not the kind of person to let my hand dangle overboard in a john boat, not even if the biggest fish around is a 45 inch Muskie...much less a Bull Shark!!!!

 

[chickadoodles]

I understand the depth of the last few posts and realize what a crap-shoot the whole mess is but I just am not the kind of person to let my hand dangle overboard in a john boat, not even if the biggest fish around is a 45 inch Muskie...much less a Bull Shark!!!!

I know me either. And I am NPIP so the State would do the work and pay me to replace my birds. But it is still just a mess!

 

[gjensen]

It would be unrealistic and misinformed to believe that it is an option for the commercial industry to breed for resistance to this sub type of this strain of Avian Flu any time in the near future. At some point they may begin vaccinating for it. Sometimes vaccination really is the best option. Especially with Turkeys. There are good reasons why they are not though.

It is just as unrealistic to expect to be able to do it in a private setting. There is more to it than it would seam on the surface. Anyone that had the bright idea to try it, would eventually give up, and in the mean time perpetuate and distribute the disease.

Not to mention that Avian Flu is prone to mutation. Has anyone noticed the many strains? Allowing it to persist in a flock and exposed to humans is not a good idea.

 

[chickadoodles]

It would be unrealistic and misinformed to believe that it is an option for the commercial industry to breed for resistance to this sub type of this strain of Avian Flu any time in the near future. At some point they may begin vaccinating for it. Sometimes vaccination really is the best option. Especially with Turkeys. There are good reasons why they are not though.

It is just as unrealistic to expect to be able to do it in a private setting. There is more to it than it would seam on the surface. Anyone that had the bright idea to try it, would eventually give up, and in the mean time perpetuate and distribute the disease.

Not to mention that Avian Flu is prone to mutation. Has anyone noticed the many strains? Allowing it to persist in a flock and exposed to humans is not a good idea.

I agree. But here in Alabama there are so many people that do not practice bio security or have any testing done. They go to the auctions and bring home birds they know nothing about and put them in their flock the start asking why are my birds dying?

 

[chickadoodles]

My birds are tested 3 times a year two times for AI/PT and one time for NPIP and AI/PT.

 

[bmvf]

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Just bought one on Amazon. My egg total is up to 41 right now and I'm not sure when the thermometer will ship so I set the eggs. I would assume my thermometer is showing warmer than it should because my last two hatches have been a day or so late. So I set the incubator at 101 instead of the 99.5 for the last hatch. I'll be sure to check the old thermometer with the new Brinsea when it comes. Hopefully I'm correct and don't fry my eggs.

My Dels started laying this week at 21 weeks. Not bad considering they didn't have a light and it was a very cold winter.

 

[ronott1]

Just bought one on Amazon. My egg total is up to 41 right now and I'm not sure when the thermometer will ship so I set the eggs. I would assume my thermometer is showing warmer than it should because my last two hatches have been a day or so late. So I set the incubator at 101 instead of the 99.5 for the last hatch. I'll be sure to check the old thermometer with the new Brinsea when it comes. Hopefully I'm correct and don't fry my eggs.

My Dels started laying this week at 21 weeks. Not bad considering they didn't have a light and it was a very cold winter.

That is great!

I hope you have a great hatch.