BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

[Arielle]

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lol After writting this I realized later that the pits are very stone like, and I am not likely to access the inner seed area. . .. so thank for the reminder that the Native Am did make a paste to last thru the winter.

 

[LindaB220]

lol  After writting this I realized later that the pits are very stone like, and I am not likely to access the inner seed area. . .. so thank for the reminder that the Native Am did make a paste to last thru the winter.

Well, this is interesting. Pemmican.

 

[Arielle]

Quote: Yup, pemmican. Would love to try such a food. THough I"m sure it is not fare any of us used to. lol

PS-- turkey soup is on the stove!! AUburn x Bourbon Red

 

[gjensen]

As the different States are becoming more and more restrictive concerning the movement of poultry, there are two considerations. Do not move any birds at all (the best option for many places), or move some birds while you can.

This fall will likely see another round. We will most likely see it in places that we have not yet, and again in places that we already have. Then likely another round in the spring. The movement of birds will as a result become more and more difficult. In fact I would go as far to say that it will get to a point (eventually) where it will never be the same again. We are entering into a brand new reality.

We spoke at length recently on maintaining genetic depth within a flock of poultry. There can be some disagreement on what that requires precisely, but it has to be common among us that depth does have to be maintained.
With the new and coming restrictions on the movement of poultry, that depth may be more important than ever. At least for those that have some concern for what they will bring into their flock.

My case is an extreme example but does illustrate this dilemma. The only two viable flocks that I have access to is in California. Now it is very possible that we will be restricted from coast to coast exchanges of birds soon. What will I do, or be able to do, five years from now? It is not certain. I would be reluctant to make the genetic exchange at this point anyways. Five years from now, even less so. Now soon it may not even be an option.

Now more than ever, I think we need to think regionally. Ideally within our own borders. If there are two or more quality breeders (other than yourself) of the same breed within those borders, you are in better shape than some others. I prefer to thin regionally anyways given the potential for selection according to regional conditions. Climate etc. Some breeds are better equipped for some regions than others.

It probably is that some in some States need to ride out the storm at this point. As the latest incident from Iowa shows, it would probably be best to stay away from some States. For others it could be that the storm is approaching and it is time to make appropriate preparations.

 

[ronott1]

As the different States are becoming more and more restrictive concerning the movement of poultry, there are two considerations. Do not move any birds at all (the best option for many places), or move some birds while you can.

This fall will likely see another round. We will most likely see it in places that we have not yet, and again in places that we already have. Then likely another round in the spring. The movement of birds will as a result become more and more difficult. In fact I would go as far to say that it will get to a point (eventually) where it will never be the same again. We are entering into a brand new reality.

We spoke at length recently on maintaining genetic depth within a flock of poultry. There can be some disagreement on what that requires precisely, but it has to be common among us that depth does have to be maintained.
With the new and coming restrictions on the movement of poultry, that depth may be more important than ever. At least for those that have some concern for what they will bring into their flock.

My case is an extreme example but does illustrate this dilemma. The only two viable flocks that I have access to is in California. Now it is very possible that we will be restricted from coast to coast exchanges of birds soon. What will I do, or be able to do, five years from now? It is not certain. I would be reluctant to make the genetic exchange at this point anyways. Five years from now, even less so. Now soon it may not even be an option.

Now more than ever, I think we need to think regionally. Ideally within our own borders. If there are two or more quality breeders (other than yourself) of the same breed within those borders, you are in better shape than some others. I prefer to thin regionally anyways given the potential for selection according to regional conditions. Climate etc. Some breeds are better equipped for some regions than others.

It probably is that some in some States need to ride out the storm at this point. As the latest incident from Iowa shows, it would probably be best to stay away from some States. For others it could be that the storm is approaching and it is time to make appropriate preparations.

Get hatching eggs if they have less restrictions.

 

[hellbender]

lol After writting this I realized later that the pits are very stone like, and I am not likely to access the inner seed area. . .. so thank for the reminder that the Native Am did make a paste to last thru the winter.

It likely de-wormed all who partook.

 

[LindaB220]

Do I miss my chickens? Heck yeah, but I wanted to travel more than a few days. So I'll do my traveling this year and next Jan will get some eggs from a local buddy. He has heritage Black Australorps and I want some. $3 a dozen at the store.

 

[hellbender]

Do I miss my chickens? Heck yeah, but I wanted to travel more than a few days. So I'll do my traveling this year and next Jan will get some eggs from a local buddy. He has heritage Black Australorps and I want some. $3 a dozen at the store.

I'm thinking about traveling again...and taking all credit/cash cards with me! I got a bill today from our local feed store (of all places) for $408.00 (representing a hefty discount)....and not an ounce of animal feed is involved. Ariel signed her name to the order slip for 6 dog crates with the dimensions of 34''X24''X27''. Made by MidWest Mgf,co.

I have NO need for dog crates because I have kennels and we never take the dogs off the property. We do most of our own Vet. work and in case of serious emergency, my Vet. lives about 12 miles away and will come out at all hours, rain or shine, holidays, etc and charges accordingly.

Her reasoning for the purchase....Turk tore up her show crates and X-pens to partition off his chicken house in Ky (great air-flow), Sooooo I have to replace some of them.

She is getting them to harbor breeding cocks. She is not impressed with the outside hooches that Jason has make for cock-birds over the years and wants these to keep inside the barn, for 1: keeping the cocks separated in large enough areas and 2: to keep the young cockerels that are being selected and saved for brood stock from riding the feathers and hide off her pullets. She makes it sound so worthwhile but there must be a cheaper way to do this, even if homemade structures aren't easily moved.

Female logic....I just have to learn to live with it.

 

[JRNash]

I feel your pain.lol

 

[DesertChic]

I'm thinking about traveling again...and taking all credit/cash cards with me! I got a bill today from our local feed store (of all places) for $408.00 (representing a hefty discount)....and not an ounce of animal feed is involved. Ariel signed her name to the order slip for 6 dog crates with the dimensions of 34''X24''X27''. Made by MidWest Mgf,co.

I have NO need for dog crates because I have kennels and we never take the dogs off the property. We do most of our own Vet. work and in case of serious emergency, my Vet. lives about 12 miles away and will come out at all hours, rain or shine, holidays, etc and charges accordingly.

Her reasoning for the purchase....Turk tore up her show crates and X-pens to partition off his chicken house in Ky (great air-flow), Sooooo I have to replace some of them.

She is getting them to harbor breeding cocks. She is not impressed with the outside hooches that Jason has make for cock-birds over the years and wants these to keep inside the barn, for 1: keeping the cocks separated in large enough areas and 2: to keep the young cockerels that are being selected and saved for brood stock from riding the feathers and hide off her pullets. She makes it sound so worthwhile but there must be a cheaper way to do this, even if homemade structures aren't easily moved.

Female logic....I just have to learn to live with it.

Could be worse....She could be a power tool addict with the belief that, "I know I can build that better and cheaper once I buy some more power tools" kinda gal.

(Yes, I really DO need three drills and two compound miter saws....)

Right now it's closing in on 110 ºF here and I'm trying to ignore my heat-induced headache so I can keep working on building the new pens for my chickens, which are currently sitting in front of their new evaporative cooler, panting heavily, while I work in the sun. Those dog crates are seeming like a pretty smart idea to me right now.