i was talking about during hatching when eggshell is sticking.didn't say,but even with our humidity(between 80 to 100%)onside the incubator.bowls,sponges,rags or spritzing don't help.best i have gotten was 58%.not air conditioned.have not lost any but dipping into warm water to remove shell scares me.friend was watching my incubator and drowned 20 of 35 chicks.she is where i used to live.humidity problems there also.i don't let ANY ONE help anymore.they were from a beautiful columbian rock trio.won several ribbons with them.just hate to have them stick.and yes have used several hygrometers.thanks for feed back.Cat wants to go to bed,he is so demanding.