Buckeye Breed Thread

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Ok, I've said this before and gotten flamed for it, but I'm going to say it again. If you need to boost protein, if you want good animal sources of protein for your birds, the simplest and easiest way to do so is to feed them dry cat food, not much, but as a treat.

Now, there are folks who scream when I say this. Folks who have called me crazy. Folks who say they would never feed such a thing to their birds. But hello, chickens are not vegetarians! They are the farthest thing from it. They eat snakes and mice and all sorts of disgusting stuff in their search for good sources of protein.

And of course, you can find cat food that does not have chicken meal, or chicken anything for that matter, in it. There are seafood based cat foods out there, (I get mine at WalMart) that work very well in this regard. I feed about a cup of dry cat food per day per 20 birds. They adore it. They come running when they see me. It helps with good feather growth, and it contains the proper amino acids that chickens need that they'll never find in vegetable sources of protein.

You can believe me, or not. Some people can call me crazy (and I know who they are, I know they read this board.) But I've been doing it for seven years now, and was told to do it by a man who has been breeding poultry for over 50 years (he's in his late 80s.) He knows what he's talking about, I assure you.

It works. It's relatively cheap. And it gives the birds what they need. So, if all you feed is pellets, try adding in some seafood based dry cat food. You'll be amazed at the results.
 
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I can't wait to try the cat food. What's the brand you use? I just stared raising chickens. I have 5 15 week old Buckeye's, 10 week old Buckeye's and 13 eggs (Buckeyes) in the bator. I love them. Plus 100 other chickens.
 
Maintaining your pasture for your free range birds is going to be your best method of insureing adequate nutrient levels for your birds. This not only includes fertilizer and lime, but also insureing adequate Macro/Micro nutrients such as Sulfur, boron, copper, zinc are available in your soils nutrient levels. Your birds ( and us), are what they eat, and what they eat comes from the soil.
 
Okay, folks --

I'm about 45 days from my first APA sanctioned show (or ANY show for that matter -- total newbie)
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I've read what I can find about preparing for the show, and will forgo the plucking of feathers to ensure unbroken ones. I will bathe the birds, and want to *train* them for the competition.

So I have two questions:
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Do you prefer the permanent metal leg bands that are "adjustable" meaning they fit 3 different sizes, and have a sort of eyelet closure, or do you prefer the butt-end bands?

Second -- in "training" the birds, I thought I would use my dog crate (24 w x 36 l x 26 h) to simulate the show pen, elevating it on sawhorses to make it comparable. I also thought I would use meal worms for "treats" to get the bird to comply. They're all friendly, but not the happiest to be picked up.

So part of the question is -- would you coop the bird in with the rest of the flock to begin with to lessen the shock? or coop entirely away from the flock from the beginning?

Also, if I am able to train the bird to accept being picked up, being held and having wing stretched out, held and manuevered around for conformation checking, returned to the coop and "moved around" or "fluffed" with the antennae-like probe -- is that sufficient?

Tentative show schedule - Missouri State Poultry Show - Sedalia, MO 10/16
Heart of Ozarks, Fayetteville, AR - 11/6 (Jimsfarmstand and jenjscott -- are you attending this one?)
Kansas Classic - Hutchinson, KS - 11/20
POSSIBLY APA Annual Meet - Shawnee, OK 12/11-12
 
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I would train your birds around the other chickens and distractions. As you well know, a poultry show is loud and I think if they will be less stressed if they are used to the noise.

What kind of chickens are you showing? The only ones who need to have additional training are the modern games. Otherwise, just getting them used to being held and caged is all they need. You can also use moist and meaty dog treats...the chickens love them.

Good luck!!

Angie
 
I like the plastic bandettes and spirals, myself. The plastic bandettes have a number large enough that you can see it from a distance, so you can watch your birds in their pen/roaming area and determine which ones to take to the show. Be aware, they do tend to slip off though, which is why I like a spiral too. I do a different colored spiral depending on year hatched, and sometimes a second one to distinguish a different bloodline or other important info.

You can get them here:

http://www.poultrymansupply.com/2007Legbands.htm
 
Well, I had purchased (and am using) the plastic bandettes. Two of the three show catalogues I've read state "permanent bands" and specifically exclude numbered plastic bands. That's why I'm on the hunt.

Thanks!

Janet
 
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