Buckeye Breed Thread

[jenjscott]

Punky, so the one with the black is also the one with the um...... different...... comb?

 

[punky rooster]

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different?

 

[cgmccary]

punky rooster wrote:he weighs about 9 pounds and seven months he has good shape

He is 7 months old & he also weighs 9 lbs???? Those two things are not possible. Have you weighed him? He should be between 7-8 lbs at 7 months of age. I have an excellent 6 month old I weighed today, and he weighed 7 lbs 4 oz -- that is right where I want him to be at that age.

punky rooster wrote: I only have 3 pullets and 2 roos including him

Then if I were you, for now, I'd hang on to him but do weigh him.​

 

[Janet Hatch]

There's been a lot of talk about general type of the buckeye, and feather color, but where, in your opinion, does the "slate bar" fall in priority of conformation/type?

It would seem to me that since the slate bar is a breed characteristic, it should be high on the list of culling criteria.

Comments?

Janet Hatch
NW MO

 

[punky rooster]

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He is 7 months old & he also weighs 9 lbs???? Those two things are not possible. Have you weighed him? He should be between 7-8 lbs at 7 months of age. I have an excellent 6 month old I weighed today, and he weighed 7 lbs 4 oz -- that is right where I want him to be at that age.

punky rooster wrote: I only have 3 pullets and 2 roos including him

Then if I were you, for now, I'd hang on to him but do weigh him.​

no I haven't weighed him but I will and I will keep him at least till spring
thanks punky

 

[punky rooster]

ok I weighed them and here are the results:
the roo weighed 7.4 pounds[i only started high protein feed a month ago]
my new roo weighed 4.7 if i remember right 5 months old
I weighed my bad quality roo and he weighed 7.8 pounds
pullets:
4.4 pounds 7 months
4.6 pounds 7 months
5.6 pounds 7 months not sure i did it right with her
punky

 

[cgmccary]

Janet Hatch wrote: There's been a lot of talk about general type of the buckeye, and feather color, but where, in your opinion, does the "slate bar" fall in priority of conformation/type?

It would seem to me that since the slate bar is a breed characteristic, it should be high on the list of culling criteria.

I think the slate bar is a high priority if you are lacking it. Body type/shape & size is always my highest priority. I'm not going to keep and breed one with bad body type.

punky rooster wrote: the roo weighed 7.4 pounds[i only started high protein feed a month ago]

I only feed them the high protein (>28%) the first 8-10 weeks of age (certainly never past 12 weeks). I then bring it down to 19-20%. I believe there is some evidence that continuing the high protein after 8-10 weeks is actually regressive (or stunts growth). This all has to do with the "rate of growth."

"bad quality roo" weighed 7.8 lbs? what age is he? why is he "bad quality."

Incidentally, punky rooster, when you use the term, "roo," then I think, "rooster/cock = more than 1 year old." Use the term cockerel and I will know you are talking about younger than than 1 year old. "roo" is a confusing term.​

 

[punky rooster]

my bad Quality cockeral he has a bad comb and he has even more black on him
what brand feed do you use?
here is my good cockeral

punky

 

[cgmccary]

I see, he looks like he is possible carrying recessive single comb trait; looks pinched in the saddle area too. where did he come from? his age?

I feed mine Purina Game Bird Chow Startena (30%) the first 8-10 weeks and then I switch to Purina Game Bird Chow Conditioner (19%). During Spring hatch season when the hens & pullets are all laying, I use Purina Game Bird Chow Layena (Breeder's ration) (20%).

The Game Bird Chows all contain both animal and plant protein. Sometimes my feedstore fails to keep supplies in. If I run out of Conditioner, I mix the Startena half and half with Purina Flock Raiser. If I run out of the Game Bird Chow Startena during the first two months of the chick's life & the feedstore doesn't have it in, I will drive a distance to find it.

The Game Bird Chows I get are not medicated (not even the Startena). Note though that Purina's Flock Raiser is medicated. And the drawback: Purina's Flock Raiser contains only plant protein and no animal protein. I feed it to my geese & EVERYTHING ELSE helps themselves to it (dogs, Buckeyes, Guineas). I supplement in heavy laying times with crushed oyster shell. Also, contrary to what most do, I treat mine every morning to something called "Fightin Scratch" around here. It is just a morning treat but it contains cracked corn, popcorn, milo and sunflower seed-- to this, I add more black oiled sunflower seed and some whole kernal corn. I keep the whole kernal corn for the geese which like the Flock Raiser, everything helps themselves to.

 

[punky rooster]

Jason page , 7 months I will try that feed punky