Buckeye Breed Thread

[el pollo rey]

I have small free range turkey flock that I supplement protien with sport mix 26/18 dry dog food they seem to do quite well with it I am not sure why this would be considered a bad practice as my Great Danes seem to do well on it also lol to each his own I guess ,,, I have been hatching for quite a few years and have great hatch rates with my methods and others have good results with theirs what works for me may not work for you or visa versa just saying

 

[Pathfinders]

. Funny you say that. My son works for Iams pet food at the lipsec Ohio plant I have absolutely no problem mentioning the plant and place in this post as a few years back my son who is in the QC dept rejected a truck load of frozen chicken on incoming inspection the truck driver was furious and had no idea what to do next he called his company and within two hours the driver was on his way over to the cambels soup plant in napoleon Ohio to deliver the chicken that was not fit for dog food but was apparently ok for soup for HUMAN consumption and I'm not sure what U.S based dog food company is adding road kill to there pet foods as you say but I would love to know what company is using this practice so I do not feed this brand to my animals in the future

OMG. Or one more reason why I don't eat canned soups/foods of that sort.

Ew. Just ew.

 

[el pollo rey]

OMG. Or one more reason why I don't eat canned soups/foods of that sort. 


Ew. Just ew.

 

true story !

 

[Tailfeathers]

I am sure that chicken feed and all the other things chickens eat on free range are not anything I'd eat myself & chicken feed is not fit for human consumption either. Does anyone think humans should consume chicken feed? I don't eat any of my animals' food. I saw a Buckeye hen running with a small snake in her mouth the other day. I am sure she ate it. I wouldn't eat it.

Years ago, I had someone, better in math than myself, compute the amount of sodium in cat and dog foods and what a chicken could rid its body of according to what has been written in some scientific journals & concluded that the amount of sodium in such foods (and what they are capable of consuming) was no danger to chickens. I keep reading about the the "way too much sodium" thing but as far as I am concerned, it is a myth propagated and repeated ad nauseum on poultry and group websites.

I have been treating my chickens to dry dog food for years. It started with them stealing the dogs food while the dogs were eating (so I gave the chickens a bowl so they would leave the dogs alone). I have groups of hens 5, 6 & 7 years old who are healthy & still laying well for their age so it doesn't seemed to have harmed them. My chickens also consume the treats the cows and donkey drop (their sweet feed, alfalfa & oats) and hang out dangerously under the big animals competing for the drops.

My chickens also stay in the compost pile all day. I wouldn't eat out of the compost pile either.

I wouldn't make other animal foods the basis of my chickens diet, but my Buckeyes particularly are real pigs -- i.e. they seem to enjoy eating everything and anything. The important thing is that they free range and are not consuming one thing, whether their feed, the cows sweet feed, the dogs' food, the snakes, etc., as their sole food.

Anyone who's raised chickens for any length of time has seen and knows they'll eat a fair amount of their own poo. I wouldn't eat that either.

But what I really wanted to echo was Chris' comment " as far as I am concerned, it is a myth propagated and repeated ad nauseum on poultry and group websites." I can't count off the top of my head the number of myths I've seen propagated and repeated ad nauseam on poultry and group websites. Best to keep that in mind whenever you read anything on these poultry sites. Double and triple check from other sources.

I've been feeding cat kibbles for years as a regular part of the feed mix I make for my birds. And I can tell you that my peafowl in particular make a regular diet of my cats food. They love the stuff and I'm constantly catching them on the porch in the cat dish!

God Bless,

 

[el pollo rey]

Anyone who's raised chickens for any length of time has seen and knows they'll eat a fair amount of their own poo.  I wouldn't eat that either.

But what I really wanted to echo was Chris' comment " as far as I am concerned, it is a myth propagated and repeated ad nauseum on poultry and group websites."  I can't count off the top of my head the number of myths I've seen propagated and repeated ad nauseam on poultry and group websites.  Best to keep that in mind whenever you read anything on these poultry sites.  Double and triple check from other sources.

I've been feeding cat kibbles for years as a regular part of the feed mix I make for my birds.  And I can tell you that my peafowl in particular make a regular diet of my cats food.  They love the stuff and I'm constantly catching them on the porch in the cat dish!

God Bless,

very well put !

 

[fowlman01]

Some people online also think chickens should only eat veggies. There is no end to the misinformation that one will find online.......and sometimes it is written about so well that many people will believe it.

Walt

 

[NYREDS]

Its not what's on the list exactly but what additives are used. Dog and cat food has different regulations not related to human consumption. Like Anticaking agents
Antigelling agents
Antimicrobial agents
Antioxidants
Color additives
Condiments
Curing agents
Drying agents
Emulsifiers
Essential oils
Flavor enhancers
Flavoring agents
Grinding agents
Humectants
Leavening agents
Lubricants
Palatants
Pelleting agents and binders
Petroleum derivatives
pH control agents
Preservatives
Seasonings
Spices
Stabilizers
Sweeteners
Texturizers
Thickeners
These are not all the same as used in human grade food.

And also dying diseased and already dead animals including road kill which are not aloud in human food. These are the reasons the bag says not safe for human consumption. A little different than a hot dog or a big Mac.

Without even bothering to get into an exchange about this post in general I will say that the "road kill" used in pet foods claim is unadulterated BS!

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: If for no other reason, think about the cost of COLLECTING it. The availability is unpredictable and locations are not known ahead of time. It would cost so much $$$$ to pay the driver and his gas bill to drive all over who knows where, that probably is largely NOT on routine distribution/collection runs. Production and contents of both pet and livestock feeds are regulated.

 

[el pollo rey]

Without even bothering to get into an exchange about this post in general I will say that the "road kill" used in pet foods claim is unadulterated BS!

yup

 

[el pollo rey]

If for no other reason, think about the cost of COLLECTING it.  The availability is unpredictable and locations are not known ahead of time.  It would cost so much $$$$ to pay the driver and his gas bill to drive all over who knows where, that probably is largely NOT on routine distribution/collection runs.  Production and contents of both pet and livestock feeds are regulated.

. Wait ,,, for real ? My Great Danes are going to be very unhappy now after reading that post I nixed the dog food and started buying T bones and rib eyes for them ,,,,, lol