Call Duck Color Genetics & size

[josh44]

I have Blue Bibbed (Drake /Male) What Happens If I breed it to a ( White Female/hen) and (Grey Female/duck hen).


What would the offspring look like.

Also If i have an extra duck hen she's a good size duck hen, almost the size of a mallard, I was going to cull her. what happens if I breed her to a smaller drake ? would the ducklings be small or just cull like the mother.


Thank You,

 

[Sweetfolly]

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You won't know what happens with the Bibbed Drake to the White duck until you try it - White is a "masking" color that blocks all other pigment. She could be virtually ANY color "underneath" the white. I have three Call ducklings that came from a Butterscotch x White mating, and they hatched out Blue Pied - they all got a dose of the blue dilution from the Butterscotch Drake, but the White duck must have been carrying both Extended Black and the Pied (sometimes called the "Runner Pattern", because it's the pattern you see on a Fawn & White Runner) gene.

With the Bibbed drake to the Gray duck, I think you'd get both Blue and Black Bibbed offspring - but I'm not sure on that one.

I dunno about the too big duck though. I'd say that you probably shouldn't breed her, but I don't breed Call ducks. Hopefully someone else will chime in!

 

[goosedragon]

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You won't know what happens with the Bibbed Drake to the White duck until you try it - White is a "masking" color that blocks all other pigment. She could be virtually ANY color "underneath" the white. I have three Call ducklings that came from a Butterscotch x White mating, and they hatched out Blue Pied - they all got a dose of the blue dilution from the Butterscotch Drake, but the White duck must have been carrying both Extended Black and the Pied (sometimes called the "Runner Pattern", because it's the pattern you see on a Fawn & White Runner) gene.

With the Bibbed drake to the Gray duck, I think you'd get both Blue and Black Bibbed offspring - but I'm not sure on that one.

I dunno about the too big duck though. I'd say that you probably shouldn't breed her, but I don't breed Call ducks. Hopefully someone else will chime in!

Larger than show size ducks are often used to produce a generation because the show size is just too darn small to reproduce properly. This mating is likely to produce a range of sizes between the size of the two parents. Sorry don't know about color genetics..... Good Luck!

 

[Sweetfolly]

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Ah - that makes sense!

 

[josh44]

Oh I just thought you bred the smallest with the smallest.

Forgot to mention the ehtie hen has cream/tan on her head. Is This is due to the masking color

 

[OmaBird]

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Nope, I just read that too this morning. Even you tiny show birds are sometimes feed to reduce size. These do not make the best breeders.

 

[Sweetfolly]

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Hmmm...that sounds interesting. A true "White" shouldn't have any colored feathers. Any chance you could get a picture up? Pretty please?

 

[Chris09]

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Try this http://www.edelras.nl/Henk69/kruisingEend.html

Bibbed Blue over a Gray should give you all Bibbed Blue and I believe it might be the same for white..

Chris

 

[Sweetfolly]

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That link didn't work for me - here's the one I use, but it's NOT very accurate unless your ducks are all "pure" colors and aren't carrying any recessive genes: http://kippenjungle.nl/kruisingEend.html

 

[Henk69]

It is accurate, but the calculator can't smell what genes your ducks are carrying...

You can set these in the advanced version (hyperlink to the right).

Someone told me that the Extended black and dominant bib genes are closely linked.
That isn't build in yet.

Annarie, is that a picture of Jamie Gertz?