You're welcome. I know you have made your decision. But for the future or any others considering this, aside from all the considerations mentioned, shipping adults and chicks require boxes approved by the USPS. Those boxes aren't cheap. Shipping adult birds is even more expensive than chicks due to weight per animal. That cost has to be built into the sale price or at least added as a supplemental charge.I dont even know how I made a duplicate thread, but I certainly appreciate your advice on both canoe