Can someone help identify my pullets as possible roosters at 5 weeks old?

[Folly's place]

I think they may both be males. Pointy neck (hackle) feathers are only on the boys. Mary

 

[Rainy78]

I think they may both be males. Pointy neck (hackle) feathers are only on the boys. Mary

I don't know why--but my husband and I both have the hardest time trying to see if they are more pointy than the other hens. Maybe it's denial because I'm so attached to the black and white one. :-/ I don't see a 3 pea comb on the Black and White, however I can see it on the white one with red on it's back.

These two fight all the time too. Not just "pecking"--but flying in the air clawing mid air etc. None of the others fight like that.

Do you know how much longer until I know for sure? They have to be going on 7 weeks now.

 

[Rainy78]

the red and white is definitely a boy. the black and white may be a girl

Thanks so much for the post. I'm definitely learning and would love to know why you think the red and white is definitely a boy and why you think the b & w has a shot at being a girl . Any advice would be MOST appreciated! **my husband is laughing at me because I'm Praying my black and white one "Ruby" is a girl...

We can't have them where I live and I would be very sad to give them up!

 

[FVRM]

Okay, I'm going to post a couple of new pics of the two "Suspects"...What are your thoughts?

it was this photo right here. See how the tail starts to curve at the end? plus red on shoulders is also a male color pattern on EEs

now the black one....the color pattern says it's a boy. notice how he has that black "ring" around his neck? BUT i still think it may be a pullet because his tail is not curved (at least i didn't notice it on the photos) and his comb is still pale. Check if he has 3 rows of peas on his comb, if he does that increases it's chance of being a boy but since EEs are not a breed they're always a wild card.