Cause of death????

[normajean]

This should not be a topic for grandstanding on ethical issues. The original poster was wondering if there were any opinions as the the possible cause of death....not to hear off topic rants about care of personal animals.
I would highly suspect ingestion of some kind of toxin, heart or thrombotic (stroke) problems or a very quick acting colic.
My regards to your friend in the loss of their horse.

 

[normajean]

This is just inflammatory. How do you know what the owners were thinking?? Do you even know them at all? Do you know the original poster?
Why do people who have nothing better to say end up posting "ganging-up" comments against someone/thing???
MODERATORS:
Where are you???

 

[texasreb]

In my estimation from her original post, she was asking for speculation. She provided little to no details and when prodded for answers to basic horse care history on the deceased animal, she back peddled. Did she actually want help/opionions or not? If not, why did she ask?

 

[silkiechicken]

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Thank you.

People. Please play nice. The OP was just inquiring about a friends horse it appears, so it is of no fault to her to have a curiosity and ask the community what could have happened. Let's not be rude to those or bring up rants about "general" animal care when all one wanted to know was what could have happened to an animal that isn't even theirs.

So let's be supportive here and not instantly think everyone abuses their animals just because they died with no warning.

Examples of remarks made in this thread that were uncalled for:

Did they not have shelter for the animals? If they don't have money to take care of their animals they shouldn't own ANY! That horses death should be reported so it can be checked for WNV and EEE! Poor thing probably wasn't vaccinated to boot! I just can NOT understand why people have animals if they will not take care of them in death and in life!

Perhaps rather than "Did they not have shelter for the animals?", it could have been stated "Was there any shelter for the animals? In general, better wording could have been used to convey the messages in a more respectful manner.

Well to each is own. IMHO You don't deserve to own animals if you can't financially support them to the fullest. I rescue/rehab horses and its totally frustrating to hear... WELL I couldn't ie, feed, hooves, teeth, treat its wounds, vetcare, etc etc etc IF your animal can't get the treatment it needs find it a home that will!

This is uncalled for because this is not a thread discussing animal care. It appears to be directed towards the OP who does not own this horse, did not see that a horse was actively abused, and just asked a question out of curiosity.

I thought that since you said it was a friend's horse that you actually cared enough to give us a little more basic info.

I would think that if someone asks a question, there is some care involved. Had there been no care, no questions would have ever been asked. It was not their horse so they can't possibly know everything about it.



So in short, please play nice as we are often here to ask questions on the things we are not experts on, with the hopes of learning something new. I expect to not see any further accusations or this thread may need to be locked. Thank you.​

 

[Corey NC]

Yay! Super Silkiechicken to the rescue!

 

[CarriBrown]

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You are making assumptions that are totally uncalled for. Any more will get this thread locked or posts deleted.

 

[patandchickens]

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Actually for most horses (i.e. any except very elderly or ill ones) this is actually the HEALTHIEST way to keep them. Horses do not always stand inside the shed during a tunderstorm -- in fact, mine seldom do, unless the downpour has made them cold, or there's hail -- and you know what, that's not such a bad thing because horses can perfectly well die of lightning standing inside a shed anyhow

Assuming the horses were checked daily for anything out of the ordinary, and nothing out of the ordinary was seen, and assuming I knew darn well everything that was growing in my pasture, then I would not myself have had a necropsy done.. not unless I just had a buncha money burning a hole in my pocket and was overwhelmed with pure curiosity. It's pretty much guaranteed to be a one-off, such as lightning, a ruptured aneurysm, or an odd colic (esp. if the horse was a grey).

I cannot offhand think of contagious things that have any reasonable likelihood of the horse being 100% fine today and 100% dead tomorrow morning.

If the horseowner does not know for SURE everything that's growing in the pasture, it would be worth a careful walk 'round with a couple of identification manuals in hand; and if there is any question of colic, it would be worth having fecals done on a couple of the horse's pasturemates, as well as checking for sand in the poop.

Otherwise, though, it may be Just One Of Those Things.

I =certainly= would not start vilifying someone or assuming that they are neglectful just because of the mere fact that they had a horse die.


Pat

 

[CarriBrown]

I've had one horse drop dead and it ended up being a twisted gut. He was about 10 years old, my head horse, and in perfectly good health. Nothing could have prevented it, unless maybe I was out there 24/7 making sure he didn't roll from one side to the other.

No change in diet, no change in workouts, nothing. Just up and died.

 

[chicknmania]

Thank you, all those who supported me, and you are right. I was just interested, my acquaintances did not ask me to research it for them. And furthermore, at this point it is water over the dam. One of the people involved was a teenage girl. I would not cause her more pain by constantly digging up what at this point no longer matters. I saw her at a horse show this weekend when they came to visit my friends; a hug and I'm sorry for your loss was about all I did or said..these people did love this animal. More than many people can say about theirs.