Changes in Endangered poultry list!

[Cuban Longtails]

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Ah, yeah they do count hatcheries:

How does ALBC determine the status or conservation category for each poultry breed?

Poultry censusing is different than censusing for mammalian livestock. Poultry censusing requires a much more extensive approach to get a comprehensive picture. With poultry, ALBC contacts hatcheries, known major breeders, and ALBC members. ALBC also sends out surveys through the American Poultry Association, breed clubs, and the Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities. ALBC advertises its poultry census in magazines and makes the survey available on the ALBC website for anyone and everyone. We try to reach as many people as possible. We also gather information from individuals.

Ref: http://www.albc-usa.org/cpl/cpl_explained.html
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If they do count hatcheries, how many are up to the real standard and are "true" to how the breed should be.......

There's your caveat. No one can be sure unless the ALBC keeps a tally somewhere. The genetics are there in the hatchery stock, it just takes a lot of work to bring them back.

 

[Cuban Longtails]

Also, keep in mind folks, the ALBC only counts breeding stock. If you are keeping a single bird or a small flock with no intentions of breeding them, they aren't counted. Please read the link I posted.

 

[americana-chick]

Im surprised at some of the breeds under watch.... I mean seriously? A cochin? I guess it might just mean that pure cochins and not just hatchery cochins.. but i see cochins all the time where im from.

 

[fancbrd4me02]

I have been trying to get LF Modern game eggs and havn't had much luck. It's a shame how many breeds are endangered.

 

[Cuban Longtails]

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Are they bantam or large fowl? I believe the ALBC only concentraits on large fowl unless the breed is a natural bantam like the Nankin or Japanese/Chabo. I have not seen a lot of large fowl cochin, even at the shows I've attended.

 

[charlieschickens]

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Are they bantam or large fowl? I believe the ALBC only concentraits on large fowl unless the breed is a natural bantam like the Nankin or Japanese/Chabo. I have not seen a lot of large fowl cochin, even at the shows I've attended.

You are correct in the statement that they will only list a bantam if it does not have a LF counter part. Also to even be considered in the ALBC's census, you must keep a breeding flock of 50 or more birds of the breed. Another reason why there list is flawed. How many people actually keep 50 of one breed? I think they do a great job in the fact that most of the breeds they do list are in need of help, but they need to redefine their standards. I have looked over there most recent publication of the critical list and contacted breeders in refrence to the ALBC's findings. And no, they weren't backyard breeders, I went directly to the Buckeye association and asked one of the members here. According to the ALBC, there are only 75 Buckeye breeders in the US. Mind you one of the ladies who is vitally involved with the poultry census is a Buckeye breeder herself.....

 

[Rare Feathers Farm]

I disagree with some of these...

Critical-

Buckeye
Campine
Chantecler - I am thinking of getting some, I saw white ones at the show in Monroe. They were smaller than I'd imagined.
Crevecoeur - I have these
Holland
Modern Game
Nankin
Redcap - I'd like some but I'm unsure of how their combs will do this winter. I have trouble with the WFBS already...
Russian Orloff - I have these
Spanish - I have these (if they are talking about WFBS).
Sultan - I have these
Sumatra
Yokohama

Threatened-

Andalusian-I'd like some more but I'm unsure of how their combs will do this winter. I have trouble with the WFBS already...I only have pullets right now
Buttercup
Cubalaya
Delaware
Dorking
Faverolle - I have these (in bantam)
Java
Lakenvelder
Langshan
Malay - I want but hubby says no...he thinks I'll get killed, LOL
Phoenix

Watch-

Ancona
Aseel
Brahma
Catalana - I'm not sure if I've heard of these???
Cochin - I have these in bantam & LF
Cornish
Dominique - I am considering these as "free range" birds for eggs & meat (if I don't go with the Chantecler)
Hamburg
Houdan - I have these in bantam
Jersey Giant
La Fleche
Minorca
New Hampshire
Old English Game
Polish
Rhode Island White
Sebright
Shamo

Recovering-
Australorp
Leghorn- Non-industrial
Orpington
Plymouth Rock
Rhode Island Red - Non industrial
Sussex - I have these in Light (I'm thinking this list is Speckled?)
Wyandotte - I have these in bantam

Study-
Araucana1
Iowa Blue
Lamona --OKAY SO WHO HAS THESE????
Manx Rumpy (aka Persian Rumpless)
Naked Neck (aka Turken)

 

[CoopCrazy]

Thanks for the explantion.. That is sad.. i guess its a good thing i dont allow my chickens to breed..

 

[Cuban Longtails]

I'm not saying that mixing up your backyard flock is a bad thing. Please don't take it that way. It's the folks who think they are helping, when they really aren't, that actually hurt the most because they don't do the research and don't have a plan of action, or they breed birds without following the breed standards just to make a quick buck.

 

[CoopCrazy]

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no I didnt take it that way.. im just having issues getting thoughts from my head to the keyboard today... I dont see any reason for me to breed as I have a mixed flock.. Althoug some of the Desinger chicks are pretty darn cool...