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Right. Almost always one will get the hint, give up and run for the hills. Some hang in there too long.Some do.
Some don't.
That's how I ended up with a rooster even tho we shouldn't have him. We bought a trio of Seramas. The roo was barely bigger than a soda can. I thought, how bad could his crow be?Myth: Smaller chickens are quieter because they don’t have the same lung capacity
Story: Read it on a chicken site somewhere
False (maybe to some degree true, like seramas vs much bigger chickens)
Evidence: Someone forgot to tell my silkies
I think it really depends on the individual chicken
Cedar shavings are bad for many small pets like rats and hamsters. Cedar gives off the scent from the cedar oil that can cause respiratory issues. It's not a stretch to think that it might not be good for chickens as well. Think about it: Cedar is used to make products like cedar chests and closet items meant to kill/repel moths and such.Another good thinker. I too had always heard that cedar shavings are toxic; use pine instead. Then I started reading that pine shavings are also toxic. I said to myself "whatever" and continued to use pine. But your question caused me to want to look that issue up too.
I read two articles that essentially said the same thing. Cedar shavings cause liver damage in mammals, but in birds the evidence is not as clear. I chose the article below to post since title of article is directly relevant to this thread.
https://bitchinchickens.com/2020/12...ar-shavings-toxic-to-chickens/comment-page-1/
I've had more respiratory/eye problems in my chicks with pine shaving than with cedar. The cedar was Eastern red cedar and the pine was a soft pine. Coincidence? I don't know.Cedar shavings are bad for many small pets like rats and hamsters. Cedar gives off the scent from the cedar oil that can cause respiratory issues. It's not a stretch to think that it might not be good for chickens as well. Think about it: Cedar is used to make products like cedar chests and closet items meant to kill/repel moths and such.
Hold a handful of cedar shavings to your nose and do the same for pine.....BIG difference.
As far as intelligence in chickens, it makes a big difference whether they have been coddled for generations to keep them alive or whether they had opportunity to free range and escape from predators. Survivability can be bred for. In my mind survivability is translated as intelligent.Not sure I've read this one yet, but:
Myth/Rumor: Chickens are stupid
Story: There was a news story some years ago online that said most people think chickens aren't the brightest knives in the drawer.
True or False: False!
Evidence: Chickens can count up to seven! I can't remember if they can navigate using the stars or not, but hey. I wouldn't be surprised if they can!
Excellent point! I find chickens are going to be among the cockroaches and twinkies if the world survives the apocalypse, LOL! They have staying power, that's for sureAs far as intelligence in chickens, it makes a big difference whether they have been coddled for generations to keep them alive or whether they had opportunity to free range and escape from predators. Survivability can be bred for. In my mind survivability is translated as intelligent.
I beg to differ, I like the smell of cedar. (I like the smell of pine too, for what it’s worth.) Because of the ability to repel moths, I think it could be helpful in repelling chicken pests like mites or lice. But then, the biology of a mite is very different from a moth, just like the biology of a chicken is very different from a rodent or human.Cedar shavings are bad for many small pets like rats and hamsters. Cedar gives off the scent from the cedar oil that can cause respiratory issues. It's not a stretch to think that it might not be good for chickens as well. Think about it: Cedar is used to make products like cedar chests and closet items meant to kill/repel moths and such.
Hold a handful of cedar shavings to your nose and do the same for pine.....BIG difference.