Chicken out law

[HeatherHillary]

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I am about to try the same thing here in Surrey, BC. Do you have any advice? How did it go? Does anyone want to join me?

 

[Omelette]

So far so good. I would think your area would be more agreeable than Toronto. You could look to Victoria for information/suggestions.

I will try to update my website www.torontochickens.com as I move through the process.

 

[HeatherHillary]

Thank you for your reply. I wish us both luck, please keep us posted! Again, if anyone in Vancouver, Surrey, Burnaby, etc.. wants to join me, you are more than welcome!

 

[HeatherHillary]

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Thank you for your advice. I went to your website, and I have several comments. I love it. I love the petition, can I borrow it f I change it a little? Corrections: Sadly, Surrey only allows chickens in the city if you have 4000 sq meter (acre?) lot. Richmond allows it if your lot is 2000 sq meters (half acre?). New Westminster and Burnaby bylaws don't say anything, so it appears OK by omission, but I'm not sure.

Thank you again, I will continue to check your website while I go through this process.

 

[COURT3800]

I live in a small town in Central Florida specifically known for its quaint downtown area with FREERANGING CHICKENS - and yet - residental zoning prevents us from having them 1/2 a mile away from this downtown area!!

Oh well, I have nine! I chose Buff Orps as I heard they were quiet and so far they've been amazing - no complaints yet

 

[CityChicken05]

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[SigningChickens]

I'm just curious how many people on here keep their chickens Illegally?


Have you ever been caught?


Do you do anything to hide them or is your city not uptight about the law?


I am in Detroit and I plan on keeping chickens, I know of at least 4 other homes in my area that have chicken,nah...ROOSTERS! And Goats! So I honestly think the Detroit cops have better things to worry about then Chickens.

As a former Detroiter (ok...Ferndale), I 100% support you in your illegal chicken keeping!! The laws need to be changed, especially in a city that big that lacks basic things like a grocery store.
Let me know if I can help in any way. The laws need to change!

 

[SigningChickens]

Anny, I live in Taylor- where chickens are considered livestock and are illegal.

In Taylor, we are allowed three animals total. And it has to be any combination of the following: dogs, cats, and non-breeding rabbits.

That means my parrots, and my tortoise are also illegal. And my bearded dragon- because it is considered exotic. No exotic animals. Taylor law is very spelled out- they even mention that quail are exotic animals.


I got caught a few years ago, and had to send my three hens to my brother in laws farm. My neighbor (the one giving me trouble now) called and said my chickens were keeping him awake all night. The pound wasn't interested in my arguments that chickens don't make noise at night.  I am not allowed to own them- silent or not.

I didn't receive a fine- I was told I WOULD receive fines, etc if I didn't give them up.


I waited a couple years, and now I have them again. In a different area of my yard, semi-secluded. My closest neighbors, on either side of me,including the one giving me trouble, know I have them. Simply because their children play with my children and have seen them. The lady across the street knows I have them- because I gave her the five that she has now. My chickens are extremely spoiled. Most of that is because I try to keep them quiet. If you don't have treats when you enter, they make a big fuss.


I ignore everything that everyone else does around me. Drag racing, huge illegal fireworks, bottle rockets that fall in my yard, loud music, pot-smoking, barking dogs,etc. When they are driving me crazy- I go sit with my chickens. I have a very nice chicken yard set up with a bench to sit on behind a split rail-fence, covered in hardware cloth, six foot high, and trumpet vine and honeysuckle covering it. I also planted evergreen shrubbery in that area- the only thing the chickens haven't stripped.  Two sides of my chicken yard are the outside walls of my house- which is L shaped. The remaining side is a privacy fence.


I don't see Taylor ever making chickens legal. They used to be- and Taylor is trying to make itself look like it is some high-class society. (Personally, I think if the Queen of England would have some house chickens, it would actually help us all.) Our city council has been trying to erase our "TaylorTucky" nickname. It is also why Taylor had those two stupid blue arches over I-94, erected. We are supposed to be some uppity-city when we don't even have busing for our high school students. Taylor is famous for our "Sin City" a mile long series of apartment complexes where nobody sane would enter without a gun, bullet-proof glass, and full body armor. So, Taylor changed the names of all the apartments over there, and said they had fixed the problem. NOT. We are also home to some pretty big pit bull fighting rings- and the pound is always full of pit bulls and pit bull mixes.  I remind my own pit how lucky he is that I own him, and that is a main reason why after I foster-raised him when he was born, I never rehomed him.


So, I keep illegal birds here. I was a little worried when my LOUD parrot learned how to sound like a chicken. And he would make the"caught" chicken sound over and over and over again. I didn't want anyone to think that is was my chickens doing it. So, I countered that by standing outside, joking with my neighbors- "Listen to him, he sounds like a chicken! Dumb bird."  I don't think my neighborhood knows that parrots are illegal here.


I am also meticulous. My yard smells better BECAUSE of my chickens. I have climbing rose bushes- out of the chickens reach, lol- I make sure ALL garbage is sealed up. I wouldn't want someone to smell stink and blame my chickens. I have honeysuckle planted (which I really have decided that I don't like the smell of). I use Sweet PDZ (and by the way, I cannot FIND food-grade DE anywhere) heavily, and I use fresh pine shavings all over the ground in my chicken yard. I clean out my coop weekly, and I use Timothy hay in their nest box. All dog poop is scooped daily. There is no standing water. We keep our yard very well groomed so that nobody can complain about appearances.


If I get caught, I will send all the chickens to my brother-in-laws for a little while. However, I will bring Carmen back here. She would not be a happy chicken there on the farm. She loves human contact and treats. There, she would live in her coop and bare yard, and food would be available, but treats are very rare. Nobody sits out in the chicken yard to visit.  Also, she loves her roost with her two windows to peek out. AND we have a nightly "Good Night, Carmen" ritual that we do through the windows. If she beats me to the window of her coop- she gets very loud until I peek through and say, "Good Night Carmen"...lol. (I would get there faster, but I have to shut the pop hole, unchain the gate to their yard, get out and rechain it, then get up on my deck to peek through the window. All she has to do is walk in the coop and jump up on her roost. lol).


So yes, basically, I am saying," I am breaking the law and intend to keep on doing so. Habitual offender, criminal behavior with no desire to reform."

I'm shocked at the laws in Taylor! It is because the older burbs have houses so close together?

 

[SigningChickens]

Be careful about making y

Here is the definition of "farm":


(a) Farm means the land, plants, animals, buildings, structures, including ponds used for agricultural or aquacultural activities, machinery, equipment, and other appurtenances used in the commercial production of farm products.


I can't see a definition that includes zoning as a requirement to be a farm.


It also states:


(6) Beginning June 1, 2000, except as otherwise provided in this section, it is the express legislative intent that this act preempt any local ordinance, regulation, or resolution that purports to extend or revise in any manner the provisions of this act or generally accepted agricultural and management practices developed under this act. Except as otherwise provided in this section, a local unit of government shall not enact, maintain, or enforce an ordinance, regulation, or resolution that conflicts in any manner with this act or generally accepted agricultural and management practices developed under this act.

Since Snyder loves to pass sneaky, underhanded laws, maybe you can get him to add a "Right to Lay" act rider onto another bill.

 

[SigningChickens]

I'm shocked at the laws in Taylor! It is because the older burbs have houses so close together?

I reread your post and I'm shocked that the blue overpass things are supposed to improve things? When I taught at WC3 Taylor I remember thinking they looked ghetto.