Chicken/Quail Disease Transfer

[Kwartel]

I have heard a lot about not keeping quail and chickens together because there are diseases that may not be symptomatic in chickens, but will kill quail quickly. Does anyone know what those diseases are called? I haven't been able to find any specific info beyond just "don't keep them together".

I am researching about whether the diseases are bacterial or viral, how they are transmitted, disease incubation times, symptoms and fatality rates from anyone who has information or experience with them.

 

[JJMR794]

LOOK UP THE MYCOPLASMA ILLNESSES, THEY ARE THE MOST PREVAILENT AS FAR AS TRANSMISSION AND SEVERITY. MOST COMMONLY CALLED CORYZA BUT THERES ACTUALLY 2 OR MORE MYCOPLASMA DISEASES THAT CAUSE IDENTICAL SYMPTOMS. CHECK OUT THE LINK FOR CLINICAL PRESENTATION--- IT SHOWS SOME VERY GOOD PIX THAT ILLUSTRATE CLASSICAL PRESENTATION IN GAMEBIRDS.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=250361

NOTE THE SINUS SWELLING AROUND AND UNDER THE EYE ORBIT + WATERY DISCHARGE(WITH OR WITHOUT BUBBLES) FROM THE EYE AND NOSE.

THE MYCOPLASMA ILLNESS ARE NIETHER BACTERIAL NOR VIRAL, THEY WOULD BE MOST SIMILAR TO VIRAL THO... THE TREATMENT IS PROPHYLACTIC TO HELP PREVENT SECONDARY BACTERIAL INFECTIONS WHICH IS USUALLY THE CAUSE OF MORTALITY IN THE AFFLICTED ANIMAL. EVEN IF THE ANIMAL SURVIVES THE ILLNESS IT IS NOW A CARRIER AND CANNOT BE HOUSED WITH NON- CARRIERS AS IT WILL TRANSMIT THE DISEASE. A MODERN DAY POULTRY VERSION OF "TYPHOID MARY" IF YOU WILL...

I HAVE NOT HAD DIRECT DEALINGS IN CORYZA WITH QUAIL, BUT IN MY CASE IT WAS RARE ORNIMENTAL PHEASANTS--- A WHOLE BROODER FULL. I AM READILY FAMILIAR WITH THE PRESENTATION OF IT IN BIRDS--- ITS FAIRLY UNIQUE AND EASY TO SPOT ONCE YOU'VE SEEN IT

AS FAR AS OTHER GAMEBIRD AILMENTS MOST COMMON ARE ENTERITIS AND ENCEPHALITIS. BOTH ARE SOMEWHAT IDEOPATHIC IN THAT MANY QUAIL CAN CARRY THEM AS WELL, BUT THE BACTERIA THAT CAUSES ENERTITIS IS VERY COMMONLY CULTURED IN OTHER POULTRY WITH NO ILLNESS (CARRIER)

ANOTHER GOOD READ.... http://veterinaryrecord.bvapublications.com/cgi/content/abstract/153/10/293

AND FOR A REFERENCE IN TRYING TO HELP DIAGNOSE OR JUST LEARNING IS .... http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/205400.htm

HOPE THIS HELPS

 

[chickenwhisperer]

So JJ, I looked at that link to Fitzys problem.
I read the entire 6 pages . . .

I have a question . . .

1- Do you think that the fact that he was keeping around 500(five hundred) quails in a garage might have had anything to do with possible disease transmision?

 

[Kwartel]

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Looks like great info! None of my birds are sick and I intend to keep it that way. I think the best way to prevent illness is to learn everything you can about possible threats to the flock and take steps to stop them.
I've always had a scientific interest in disease pathology and keeping birds has opened up a whole new line of inquiry that I hadn't considered before. Now I get to indulge my interests in micro and macro-organisms. Plus quail chicks are just too darn cute to not have at least a few around!

 

[JJMR794]

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NOT REALLY AS THAT "GARAGE" IS AN OPEN POLE BARN. IF ANYTHING HE WAS VERY LUCKY IT DIDNT SPREAD THROUGH THE 500 QUAIL LIKE WILD FIRE. THE QUAIL WERE ALL IN BREEDER BANKS, THE DISEASE WAS FROM CASUAL CONTACT WITH A SILKIE THAT WOULD COME IN AND RUMAGE FOR DROPPED SCRAPS.... I DONT RECALL FOR SURE BUT IF I AM CORRECT FITZY WORE GLOVES TO FOOL WITH THE BIRDS AS HE IS A TATOO ARTIST AND DIDNT WANT TO GET SCRATCHES ON HIS HANDS.... MY SUSPICION AT THE TIME WAS THAT HE WORE THE SAME PAIR OF GLOVES HE HAD ON IN THE PHOTO ALL THE TIME AND THAT MADE FITZY THE MODE OF TRANSMISSION, IN THAT HE HANDLED ALL THE BIRDS AND HE PICKED UP THE ILLNESS FROM THE CHICKENS AND CARRIED IT TO THE QUAIL.

NOW PERSONALLY I DONT WEAR GLOVES, SO IN ORDER TO AVOID THIS SORT OF THING MY ROUTINE IS SET UP SO I FEED/ HANDLE ALL THE GAMEBIRDS 1ST, THEN AS I WORK MY WAY THROUGH THE THE PROCESS I WASH MY HANDS WITH DIAL SOAP AND FINISH WITH THE CHICKENS..... ALL OF THIS OCCURS AFTER I DO THE MIGRATORY WATERFOWL..... I OBSERVE STRICT HANDWASHING INBETWEEN ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF BIRDS, AND SINCE THE GAMEBIRDS ARE ALL ELEVATED I DONT WORRY ABOUT TRACKING IN ANYTHING FROM MY BOOTS. IF I HAVE TO TEND TO A INJURED OR SICK ANIMAL I CHANGE CLOTHES AND WASH UP THOUROUGHLY AFTERWARDS.--- STRICT BIOLOGIC ISSOLATION. IF YOU INCORPORATE IT INTO YOUR ROUTINE IT CAN SERVE YOU WELL.... KEEP IN MIND, MY QUAILS ARE THE CHEAP AND EASY STUFF HERE.... PRICE MANDARIN OR WOOD DUCKS.... OR ORNIMENTAL PHEASANTS.... I HAVE A TIDY LIL SUM OF MONEY TIED UP IN BREEDING STOCK. 1 GOOD LESSON WAS ALL IT TOOK FOR ME!

 

[JJMR794]

"Looks like great info! None of my birds are sick and I intend to keep it that way. I think the best way to prevent illness is to learn everything you can about possible threats to the flock and take steps to stop them. "


I BELEIVE YOUR ARE ABSOLUTLEY CORRECT... TO QUOTE AN OLD SAYING... "AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH A POUND OF CURE"

I WISH EVERYONE COULD GRASP THAT CONCEPT WITH A LIL MORE EASE THAN THEY DO, MIGHT SAVE THEM ALOT OF DIFFICULTY LATER ON.