Chicken with cough, laboured breathing and black poop

sharonp53

Songster
8 Years
May 23, 2013
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Peacock Creek, NSW. 2469
1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)

She is a French Wheaten Maran. Either one or two years old (I have two different age groups in my flock. She feels to be asimilar weight to the other girls and is still eating well.

2) What is the behavior, exactly.

Coughing, laboured breathing, slightly gurgly at times, lethargic; droopy, slightly pale comb and slightly ruffled feathers.

3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?

Since yesterday morning.

4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?

No

5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.

No

6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.

No idea

7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.

She has been drinking water with Sulphrim and eating her grain.

8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.

Solid but slightly gelatinous and it is extremely dark, almost black, no urates visible.

9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?

Sulphrim oral antibiotic powder in water.

10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?

Treat the bird myself. We are in a VERY rural area and it is over an hour to the nearest vet. But I will take her to the vet if it is really needed. My main worry is that I may need to treat other chickens.

11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.

We moved to our farm a month ago and moved the chickens about three weeks ago. Since moving they have been contained in the chicken house due to getting their run finished. They have plenty of room, but of course miss their outside time. We have been cutting long grass into short lengths and feeding it to them as a partial substitute for grazing time outside.

12) Describe the housing/bedding in use

Currently the chickens are on Hydrasorb and lemon grass pellets. And are in a metal chicken house with run area, which is inside a huge metal shed. It is located near the very large door so it can be opened to give them sunlight and fresh air. There is another door immediately opposite that provides a through-flow of air.

My sick girl is currently crated.

One final point. There is a distinct smell, but it does not smell like coccidiosis has previously smelt. Maybe that is because of the antibiotics?

Thank you in advance for your help,
Sharon
 

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I don't have any experience with coccidosis and hope I never do. But it's my feeling that the few symptoms you've described aren't enough to determine a diagnosis.

Can you remove the pine shavings from the crate and place her on a white towel for a few hours? Photograph her droppings and post them here.

Is she laying like she used to before the move?

And I'm wondering about the move. I suppose when a flock is moved there isn't much that can be done to slowly introduce them to the new organisms in the soil. It's probably an all or nothing thing, but I could be wrong. Could she have been exposed to a new strain of coccidosis in her new home?

Also, if you're feeding the flock cut grasses, my observation has been that greens of any kind tend to result in dark poop. Can you instead give them large tubs of mulch and soil scooped up from under a tree or in the woods on or near your property?

Just some thoughts. I sure hope she improves.
 
I think she has coccidosis, in which case you would have to act quickly and treat with Corrid. Please someone more experienced jump in, state whether you agree, and share instructions for treatment.
@Wyorp Rock @Eggcessive

Thank you. I guess if it is a different strain it may smell different. My previous experience with coccidiosis was a very different smell. I don't have corrid, so will have to wait until morning to go and get some. :(
 
I don't have any experience with coccidosis and hope I never do. But it's my feeling that the few symptoms you've described aren't enough to determine a diagnosis.

Can you remove the pine shavings from the crate and place her on a white towel for a few hours? Photograph her droppings and post them here.

Is she laying like she used to before the move?

And I'm wondering about the move. I suppose when a flock is moved there isn't much that can be done to slowly introduce them to the new organisms in the soil. It's probably an all or nothing thing, but I could be wrong. Could she have been exposed to a new strain of coccidosis in her new home?

Also, if you're feeding the flock cut grasses, my observation has been that greens of any kind tend to result in dark poop. Can you instead give them large tubs of mulch and soil scooped up from under a tree or in the woods on or near your property?

Just some thoughts. I sure hope she improves.

They have all been laying better than before the move, which really surprised me. All the others are fine, but then she appeared fine the night before last. I will see what I can do about the mulch and soil idea. They are used to lots of greens and also free-ranging. But I will try anything!

Thank you.
 
Coughing, laboured breathing, slightly gurgly at times, lethargic; droopy, slightly pale comb and slightly ruffled feathers....Solid but slightly gelatinous and it is extremely dark, almost black, no urates visible....moved to our farm a month ago and moved the chickens about three weeks ago...There is a distinct smell, but it does not smell like coccidiosis has previously smelt.

How does her crop feel - is it emptying overnight?
The smell - can you tell where it's coming from - her breath (yeasty/sour smell), from a discharge from the nostrils (mucous/rotten smell)?

Check her crop to make sure it's emptying overnight - crop issue can cause some of the symptoms you describe - smell her breath to see if that is where the smell is coming from.

Coccidiosis is a possibility, since you recently moved them - encountering a different strain in the soil or housing, she may have an overload. The Sulprim may help with certain strain of Coccidiosis - do you have any Amprolium (probably called Coxoid where you are)?

Does she have any facial swelling, mucous from the nostrils, discharge from the eyes to accompany the coughing and labored breathing? Your mention of a smell, could be an indication of respiratory illness like Infectious Coryza, but from what I understand the smell is a rotten odor. The Sulprim may help with secondary infection due to respiratory illness as well.

With chickens, it's so hard to diagnose them at times. Without vet care or testing, sometimes all we can do is take a guess and start eliminating possibilities. Check her for lice/mites while your at it and feel her abdomen for any swelling/bloat or feeling of fluid that may indication a reproductive disorder.

One more question - where you moved to - were chickens previously housed there? If so, how long ago?

Do the best you can to keep her drinking - the medicated water sounds fine to me. Sulfa drugs can be harsh, so once you are finished with those offer her some probiotics/yogurt and vitamins to help restore the gut.
 
Checking in on you @sharonp53

How is your girl this morning?

@CarolinaSunshineFlock 's excellent
thoughts on cocidiosis and it being at a different level in the native soil at your new location, makes sense.
Checking in on you @sharonp53

How is your girl this morning?

@CarolinaSunshineFlock 's excellent
thoughts on cocidiosis and it being at a different level in the native soil at your new location, makes sense.

Well, sorry I didn't get online earlier. Busy day. She is decidedly better, poo is normal again and while she is still coughing she is breathing better and is less fluffed up. She is also less happy for me to handle her, much more skittish. She is eating and drinking well, so fingers crossed. All of the others are still well and happy and everyone has laid in the past two days.

I will report in again tomorrow. Thank you everyone.
 

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