chicken's crop not working

Sep 20, 2017
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I have an older hen, named ChronoHen (weird name, long story, no, not related to the coronavirus) whose crop seems to have essentially stopped working. At the end of March I noticed that she had slowed down and was spending a lot of time just standing with her eyes closed. I picked her up and noticed that she was very skinny. Brought her inside overnight and realized that her crop was not completely emptying in the morning. Her poop was also way off, all yellow and green and runny.

I took ChronoHen to the vet, who opened up her crop and apparently found lots of dirt and foul-smelling, undigested grains inside. ChronoHen got cleaned out and sewn back up. Recovery was slow, but she finally appears to be out of the woods, at least as far as the post-surgery period.

However: her crop is still not working. I haven't been feeding her whole grains (she only gets to hang out with the flock when they're all free-ranging without access to the feeders), but if she does occasionally eat a few grains of wheat, barley, or oats, they pass through undigested. I do offer grit, and I know she swallows a few pieces of it once in a while. But, it doesn't seem to help.

It seems like ChronoHen's digestion is off in general: her poop basically looks like whatever she ate. For the past two days, she's been really into roasted acorn squash, and that's what her poop looks like. Prior to that she devoured tons of shredded cabbage, and her poop was all green and consisted of tiny little pieces of mostly undigested cabbage. She's regained a little weight, but is still very skinny and takes lots of rest breaks from eating and foraging. So it looks like she is absorbing little nutrition from the food that she eats. Up until a couple days ago, I offered lots of high protein treats like dried grubs, ground beef, and hard boiled eggs, and, while she enjoys them, I noticed that her poop was getting super-watery with lots of white urates, which I know can be a sign of too much protein. I didn't want to tax her liver too much, so I've cut back on the protein. Now her poop just looks like squash and cabbage :)

Has anyone ever had a chicken where their digestion appears to sort of shut down or get off track like this? Is this usually a sign of an underlying condition? Or, is this simply something that happens with age? (I don't know how old she is exactly but when we got her last summer, she laid two or three shell-less eggs, so I'm guessing she was no older than 5 or so. She hasn't laid since then.) What sort of care would you advise? We are not considering euthanasia because she clearly still enjoys tasty food, spending time outside, and human attention, so please do not suggest this as an option at this stage.

Thank you for reading through the long post! Here's a pic of the culprit ;)

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Aw, cutie! Can you try this girl on a complete feed (pellet or crumble) and see if she digests it better? When I have a sick bird, my go-to is soupy baby bird formula, which you can get at the regular pet store.
 
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Good idea, I'll try that! I forgot to say that I have also been offering her the small, powdery bits that are left at the bottom of the feeder, both dry and moistened. The feed I buy is a mix of whole grains and powdered supplements like fish meal, flaxseed meal, and vitamins and minerals, and these supplements is what settles at the bottom of the feeder. She will only eat a very small amount of this stuff. Perhaps she will enjoy pellets or crumble more.
 
she's very cute!
How are her poops? normal, liquid, yellow, white...?
Have you checked her for parasites, mites, lices..?
 
The feed I buy is a mix of whole grains and powdered supplements like fish meal, flaxseed meal, and vitamins and minerals, and these supplements is what settles at the bottom of the feeder.
I think it would be a good idea to get a feed that is crumble or pellet form, and mix that with water and feed her that. You can sprinkle some cooked/scrambled egg on it to encourage her to eat, but most birds like their feed made into a mash. It will be more balanced than just getting the dust from the remains of the feed you are using. Some birds will pick and choose with whole grain feeds and have nutritional imbalances, likewise some birds have difficulty digesting some feed ingredients. If she's older then it may be age catching up with her. Sometimes digestive issues are the first sign of reproductive issues, infection, or cancers, all of which are not uncommon in birds over the age of 2. Did the vet do a fecal when she was seen to check for internal parasites and bacteria?
 
Update on our girl: She is doing really well on pellet feed!

I wanted to try a small bag first, to see how she does, and my feed store only had those 40 lb bags of chicken pellets but they did have a 5 lb bag of duck pellets so that's what I got. The saleslady at the feed store told me that when she had chickens and ducks she fed everyone duck pellets and they did just fine.

Anyway, ChronoHen has definitely regained some weight and some energy since getting started on the pellets. She spends less time just standing there looking sleepy, and more time grooming, walking around - and eating. Oh man, can she eat! The first few days especially, she literally ate nonstop. I add some water to the pellets and they quickly turn into a mash - and she LOVES it. Or perhaps it's not that she loves the food, it's just that we are finally giving her something that she is able to digest, and her body is craving the nutrients.

So, a HUGE thank you to @coach723 and @micstrachan for recommending pellets. None of my local chicken friends feed pellets so I didn't even think of them as an option.

ChronoHen's poop is still not right though... It looked almost normal the first couple of days that she was on pellets, and now it's back to being watery and slimy. More solids in there than before, but still a lot of clear or whitish, slimy fluid with white urates. I'd say over 90% of what she's eating at this point is pellets. She pecks at grass outside, and maybe catches an occasional worm or bug, and I give her very small amounts of raw grated carrots or shredded cabbage. So I don't think it's the "treats" that are causing her poop to be like that. Also, I don't think she has parasites - not the kind that can be observed in her poop with a naked eye in any case. Could be something bacterial as someone suggested above. The vet did not do a fecal when I took her in for surgery... I'll give them a call to see if I can mail in a sample; they are 40 miles away and I'd rather not travel right now - although I may have to anyway, with another chicken who has a breast blister (I started another thread about this).

Thanks again, everyone! If we do get a fecal done, or if there are changes, I will update. For now, little ChronoHen is likely to remain a house chicken, since she has be on a special diet. She is a sweet and entertaining (albeit somewhat messy and smelly) house guest so we don't mind :)
 
Thanks, will try adding probiotics to her feed. We added some Save-A-Chick probiotics to her water in the week or two after surgery and she wouldn't drink the water with probiotics, only plain. The pellets actually contain probiotics according to the packaging but perhaps it's not enough or not the right kind. And, we'll see if we can get a fecal done.
 

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