Chickens for 10-20 years or more? Pull up a rockin' chair and lay some wisdom on us!

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I normally pluck my older birds and skin my younger birds. I find with my older birds, especially roosters, they grow some pretty strong membrane to hold the skin on. With my arthritic fingers I have trouble skinning an old rooster. I wind up cutting a lot of those membranes if I try to skin older birds. It's harder and it is a lot slower to skin old birds for me, especially old roosters.

Younger birds I can skin pretty fast. What slows me down on plucking is more heating the water and keeping it hot, but that is due to the way I have it set up. If I'd ever spring for that propane turkey cooker, I'd not have that restriction. We are all different and some of us are cheaper than others. If I have hot water, I can pluck or skin at about the same speed. Now if a bird is molting, plucking becomes a lot harder and slower. That weighs into my decision of whether to pluck or skin. All those new feathers growing in can really slow plucking down. I pluck by hand. I don't process enough at a time to justify a mechanical plucker. I'll refer back to my comment about me being cheap.

My wife can't handle the skin on the birds anyway, due to her digestive system. I'll go no further on that, but I wind up eventually skinning the pieces anyway, even when I pluck. When I process, I cut them into pieces, not keep the carcass whole. When I pluck, I skin the individual pieces at that time. That skin goes into the part that becomes stock. It is usually from older birds and really enriches the stock without putting out a lot of fat.

I don't raise meaties. I raise dual purpose mutts and process males and females as required. I only process a few at a time, partly because I don't want a freezer full of meat when the power goes out. I kind of like older chicken. The flavor is good, if you use the right methods to cook them they are great, and they make better stock. I mainly free range so it does not cost a lot to feed them. I don't see a reason for me to raise a bunch that have to be processed within a narrow time window. If I'm not careful that window might fall around my grandkid's birthday or Mom might have a medical problem. I like to be able to be flexible. Some people raise meaties for their own reasons. That is their business and none of mine. Meaties just don't suit me.
 
Sorry. I declined. There were some other "interesting" things there too. I need to go back sometime soon.


Bee, I think I'm becoming senile because I thought I posted some questions that didn't get answered--but then again I may have PM'd someone. I will pose the questions again.
I was told, at the feed store, that I should wait until spring to get more hens as I have too few and the rooster is overusing the hens causing feather loss. It was suggested I get older birds to integrate into the group and a larger breed because the rooster is so large. I was wondering:
1. What would be a larger breed to the BOs and good for egglaying?
2. Would it make sense to get chicks now and raise them instead of buying older birds in the spring?
3. Should I just wait and let the existing hens go broody--if they ever will. They are 18 months old and no one has gone broody yet.

I would appreciate input on this.
 
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I gotta say something about this question. Several years back, I raised a small flock of Javas. One day I needed to catch one of the adult roosters for a reason that escapes me for the moment. Not having my hook nearby, I caught him in a fish net that I could reach without a jaunt. The simple act of netting this bird broke his neck. I couldn`t believe it. I had netted hundreds of gamefowl of all ages and only this one Java. Soooo, in my experience, ya gotta be carefull when doing anything with chicken necks. Got me to thinking that barnyard types are much more fragile than gamefowl......Pop
 
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Well...I'll give this one a shot but I can only tell you what I would do.

1. BOs are about the same size as White Rocks, New Hamps, Black Aussies and BRs. All of the larger dual purpose breeds are about the same size except the Jersey Giants~but I have no working knowledge of their laying abilities.

2. If you want to make your own flock at home and want to keep the roo, buying point of lay hens is a good option if you can find them in your area. Finding the breed(s) you want from a person from which you would buy could be problematic.

Getting chicks now is also a good option if you have a place to brood them safely. Having chicks in the winter without a good brooding place is a pain in the patootle! MPC let you order as many or as less as you want but the shipping is a little pricey.

3. I wouldn't wait until your birds go broody...they may never do so.

Options not listed: Unless you really want to raise your own chicks, you could do without the roo~this leaves less mouths to feed. Or any hens with a poor laying record could be culled...again, less mouths to feed in the winter is a bonus.
 
Ohio poster asks if it is illegal to sell eggs in Ohio.

Eggs
The Director of Agriculture regulates the production, processing and sale of shell eggs.2070
Standards, grades and weight classes of USDA are adopted for shell eggs sold, offered for sale or
advertised in the state.2071 Producers who sell shell eggs produced by their own hens on their
own premises, or who sell eggs directly to hatcheries, are exempt from the provisions of the
Act.2072
The Director is authorized to inspect any premises where shell eggs are produced,
processed, stored, sold, offered for sale or exposed for sale.2073 Eggs are to be maintained at
specified temperatures2074 and specific labeling of containers is required.2075

That said, at our farm market, we are allowed to offer eggs for a donation Eggs must be in a cooler.
 
Those are usually pullets of at least 6 mo. of age...either newly laying or mature enough to start any day. All the tough work has been done and you have a hen that you can take home and not have to wait very long for the eggs to come....this is a great thing if you got them from a reliable and honest dealer.

I don't consider it not knowing anything...I consider it a waiting vessel to be filled. At least you have enough knowledge to know where to look and what questions to ask! That's half the battle!
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LOL!! To me this 'net thing is new-fangled stuff. I started learning about keeping layers back in the early 60's from my Grandpa. A 500 bird flock (back than) is a whole lot differant than what I do now ya-know. I am learning a fair bit from this ! Thanks Much All of you guys!
Scott
 
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LOL!! To me this 'net thing is new-fangled stuff. I started learning about keeping layers back in the early 60's from my Grandpa. A 500 bird flock (back than) is a whole lot differant than what I do now ya-know. I am learning a fair bit from this ! Thanks Much All of you guys!
Scott

ya i have learned lots to
 
I do not like to buy hens!!! There is always the chance of bringing disease into your flock. Sometimes even 30 days of quarantine is not enough to make sure they are safe. Non of the hatcheries will tell you they check for MS/MG which is very catching and can cause all kinds of havoc. I lost a whole flock to it.
I would buy some chickens saddles for the hens or pen the roo by himself. Next spring I would get some chicks from a good person not a hatchery. Then add them when they are about 18 to 20 weeks old to your hens. Or let one of the hens go broody. If they are hatchery stock going broody is not likely. They are bred for egg laying not broodiness. Be careful. Gloria jean
 
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