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I've never tried it. My coop had an old oak floor that was nigh indestructible, so I just used deep litter. I think if I had tried to use sand it would have fallen through all the huge cracks between the boards.
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Maybe someone else could weigh in on that one?
 
What do the OT's think about a sand floor in the coop? I have a raised coop with a wood floor. It's a large shed.

I'm not an OTer, but I do use sand. I like it. Droppings dry out and can be scooped...backbreakingly scooped when I first put it in, now it waits til it gets stinky to get scooped. It is not maintance free. If the chickens are messy and spill water it mixes with the droppings and becomes cement like. You have to remove that hard part and replace the sand periodically....it does become stinky, just like a litter box. I have give thought to switching to shavings, thinking they might be easier.....but then I think about tracking the shavings into the house (cuz I am supposed to take off my shoes and yet, somehow I forget when I am just "running in for a minute"
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) Sand scrapes off the bottom of my shoes quite completely taking the poo with it. I didn't have sand delivered, I bought "play sand" at Lowes. Some of it is better quallity than others. They both have their drawbacks and their strengths. The kind that is beach sand scoops easier, but it finer and does nothing for the chickens as far as grit is concerned. The courser sand (similiar to what you would mix with cement to make concrete) has little rocks that the chickens can use in their crop, but tends to clog my cat litter scoop more, so I throw more of it out.

I have had chickens for a little over a year, and have had to put in 3 additional bags of sand to replace that which I threw out with the poop. It does nothing for my compost pile. Shavings are better for that. (I use shavings in my nest boxes so I do have some mixed in with the poop in the compost pile) I figure I have spent about 30 bucks on sand in a year. How much would someone spend on shavings in a year? (Oh, and I have spent about $20 on shavings for the nest boxes in the same amount of time)

Hope that helps. (now I'll go back to just reading)
 
What do the OT's think about a sand floor in the coop? I have a raised coop with a wood floor. It's a large shed.
I tried it last year for the first time with my raised portable coops (again large sheds) and my opinion is it's not worth my time and effort. I hate the smell of chicken poo and am changing my bedding at least once a month if not more. So I heard that it was this awesome wonderful solution. I went to all the trouble of cleaning, lining, and putting the sand in. It's alot of work! Especially if you use more than an inch of sand. I was so excited that the smell would be diminished compared to other mediums. And that I could just cat litter scoop out the poop. So I was told. I put six or more inches of good construction grade sand in. The next day I pulled it all back out of one and waited a week before I gave up on the other. The smell was beyond horrible and I guarantee I do not have a ventilation problem. Each coop has three large windows just like I put in my house. Well the same size but I'd be stupid if I used the same brand. Which are left open during the summer and vented over the winter. There are also vents all around the roof through the soffits. The summer doors were on which means they have screened doors only. I almost vomited when I went into the first one the smell was so bad. Especially compared to my pine/cedar blend that I normally use. I would only use sand if I had a permanant coop with a dirt floor like we had when I was growing up. Putting it in a wood floored coop is in my opinion just not a good option. I do how ever use the same sand in my turkey coop which is a dirt floored greenhouse and I put some in an old tractor tire inside the winter greenhouse that the chickens get free access to over the winter. They love to take dirt baths in it. Although they also love to take dirt bathes in the pile of horse manure, so they aren't the best judges. With the turkeys I'm finally able to remove some of their waste with a scoop, but turkey poo is much bigger than chicken poo. I also put down a layer of hay for the turkeys to bed down in and it roles up so much better having the sand underneath. The sand also has been added to my gardens to improve the hard clay soil, so I didn't really let it go to waste. I just found uses that were within my acceptable range.

By the way I just got in from cleaning out our two largest coops, two brooders, and a small coop that I use for small juveniles or broody hens, so the smell is kinda stuck on me right now. I'm thinking a good long soak in my big ol bathtub is in order while I wait for my husband to finish hauling all the old bedding up to the gardens which we use for mulch around our strawberries, berry bushes, and fruit trees. They love it and it sure does a number on the weeds. Our turkeys love to take a dirt bath in the old used chicken bedding. Go figure. I will be repeating this whole process in about 3 to 4 weeks depending on the weather. I do it more when it's wet or anytime they spend more time indoors. It's a lot of work I know, but deep litter is just deep gross to me. I can't breath around that much stink and believe me I've been over to other peoples coops that do that and they smell horrible to me.
 
I'm not an OTer, but I do use sand.   I like it.  Droppings dry out and can be scooped...backbreakingly scooped when I first put it in, now it waits til it gets stinky to get scooped.    It is not maintance free.   If the chickens are messy and spill water it mixes with the droppings and becomes cement like.    You have to remove that hard part and replace the sand periodically....it does become stinky, just like a litter box.    I have give thought to switching to shavings, thinking they might be easier.....but then I think about tracking the shavings into the house (cuz I am supposed to take off my shoes and yet, somehow I forget when I am just "running in for a minute"  :hide  )    Sand scrapes off the bottom of my shoes quite completely taking the poo with it.    I didn't have sand delivered, I bought "play sand" at Lowes.   Some of it is better quallity than others.   They both have their drawbacks and their strengths.   The kind that is beach sand scoops easier, but it finer and does nothing for the chickens as far as grit is concerned.    The courser sand (similiar to what you would mix with cement to make concrete) has little rocks that the chickens can use in their crop, but tends to clog my cat litter scoop more, so I throw more of it out. 

I have had chickens for a little over a year, and have had to put in 3 additional bags of sand to replace that which I threw out with the poop.   It does nothing for my compost pile.   Shavings are better for that.  (I use shavings in my nest boxes so I do have some mixed in with the poop in the compost pile)   I figure I have spent about 30 bucks on sand in a year.   How much would someone spend on shavings in a year?  (Oh, and I have spent about $20 on shavings for the nest boxes in the same amount of time)

Hope that helps.  (now I'll go back to just reading)


Yes I have spent a ton on shavings in the last year. Hundreds
 
Thank you that does help me. I really don't want a bad smell to deal with but I have been spending a ton on litter and I clean the coop at least once a month. I have to be doing something wrong with the pine shavings? We just added a ton of ventilation to the coop also. It just was so hot in there is the walk through doors open and a little window and chicken door. So we cut to huge windows out of each side. Now when the chickens roost they get fresh outside air all night in the summer, made a huge difference!! I just need a little help on what I could be doing wrong with the shavings. My chickens free range all day (well free range in a fenced 3 acres). But the cost is killing me on the shavings . Also the feed bill is killing me....any suggestions on supplementation???
 
I can get by for a year in a large coop/hen house on approx. 4-6 bales of shavings a year, depending on how many birds I have. I usually have flocks of 30 but occasionally have more when I have meaties. At $6 a bale, that's only $36 a year, which I don't really think is a financial burden.

Deep litter was my magic bullet....it took all the thinking~ and smelling~ out of the whole coop cleaning thing. I would never have thought that leaving the poop in there and adding shavings, keeping it fluffed, would have my coop smelling way better than it ever did when I was raking out droppings every other day. It also seemed to keep my chickens more content, particularly during bad weather and in the winter. The coop seemed warmer in the winter and smelled better in the summer, had less flies and less visible ick. I clean out my deep litter twice a year but am thinking about just keeping it going like others here....I know Al has had his going for 3 years.

I don't know that sand would yield all those positive outcomes.
 
So instead of cleaning the coop I just pile on another bag of shavings? How can that keep clean for a months? I end up scooping everything out and go through like 2 bags a month that way.m:(:)
 
It's not as simple as just piling on bags of shavings. You really need to have good ventilation....great ventilation. Mine last longer if I make the chickens give it a good fluffing to aerate it and move the more moist bedding around and about and shift the drier bedding in it's place. There is a whole thread dedicated to DLM somewhere on here and it has some great info.

I only add shavings when my current bedding has absorbed all it can and has worked itself down, then I add a few inches to it and let the chickens work it in again.
 
We fixed our ventilation issue! We basically cut a huge four foot long 3 foot wide hole in each side of the shed. Covered them in chicken fencing and the chickens love it. Now when they roost they look out the window lol.
 
We fixed our ventilation issue! We basically cut a huge four foot long 3 foot wide hole in each side of the shed. Covered them in chicken fencing and the chickens love it. Now when they roost they look out the window lol.
you want 1/4 inch hardware cloth. Chicken wire won't keep predators out of the coop
 
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