Chickens for 10-20 years or more? Pull up a rockin' chair and lay some wisdom on us!

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First off are the birds you currently have Hatchery stock ??.

IMHO I would start with breeder birds, they need not be super duper SQ or very expensive but as long as they have the build and are real typey, that is a great start. Here's why............ Hatcheries Have beat this phrase Dual purpose to death and they are in no way breeding to produce any amount of flesh/meat on their birds, as egg's and egg production is the ONLY thing the strive for Period end of discussion. If your looking for stock that will truely be good table fair of decent size and keep you in egg's a heritage breed is the way to go and you can't buy heritage at any hatchery ever. You want a bird to come to the table that is at least well proportioned and not look like a rubber prop chicken the stand up comdians use LOL. And I don't mean the bird should look like a Cornish X either but somewhere in between, Heritage birds are fantastic for this and as far as their laying ability, sure they do lay for a longer period over the years but you will get just a few less egg's, but their shape and size and color will be exceptional. I am not one of those type folks who freak the hell out if their ( GIRLS) !!! don't lay for a day. Hatchery buyers will tell you all about compassion and cutsey-tutsey fluffy whatever's................. but god forbid one takes a break from laying and these same folks are ready for chicken war and then their Doctor jeckel side realy comes out if from the huggers if they under lay for one day LOL.

Heritage breeds will truely provide the best of both worlds and they look 400 bazillion times better than the hatchery mutt. they will be healthier, more robust, and be better foragers, and You need not drop the kids college fund for these either thats just another thing the cheap hatchery folks want you to believe, if it cost more than $2.00 it's way over priced balony, just look around localy and take your time .......... you will find some good heritage LF in no time. Please don't just buy a good heritage rooster and throw him in with the ugly betty's or you will just ruin the whole flock, get rid of your junk in the trunk and buy a few of the real chickens, you will truely be amazed. The best part of real heritage birds is you can hatch better birds as well and when they do hatch......... guess what.... you won't have to make a post saying....... what are these chicks ?? LOL cause they will be good pure birds not a box of chocolates when they emerge from the shell.

Now I am sure the hatchery die hards will certainly chime in to the contrary, and that's fine but you asked and IMHO experience has taught me, shoot I even bought Hatchery stock from some retail feed store bin before for like $1.20 ea. Rest assured I won't do that again, but it taught me the difference first hand. If you don't believe me go take a quick look at some real chickens at a real farm or breeders place, and you will be floored in 2 mila-seconds by looking at them. Ok so I think that about covers it pretty well.

AL
 
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First off are the birds you currently have Hatchery stock ??.

IMHO I would start with breeder birds, they need not be super duper SQ or very expensive but as long as they have the build and are real typey, that is a great start. Here's why............ Hatcheries Have beat this phrase Dual purpose to death and they are in no way breeding to produce any amount of flesh/meat on their birds, as egg's and egg production is the ONLY thing the strive for Period end of discussion. If your looking for stock that will truely be good table fair of decent size and keep you in egg's a heritage breed is the way to go and you can't buy heritage at any hatchery ever. You want a bird to come to the table that is at least well proportioned and not look like a rubber prop chicken the stand up comdians use LOL. And I don't mean the bird should look like a Cornish X either but somewhere in between, Heritage birds are fantastic for this and as far as their laying ability, sure they do lay for a longer period over the years but you will get just a few less egg's, but their shape and size and color will be exceptional. I am not one of those type folks who freak the hell out if their ( GIRLS) !!! don't lay for a day. Hatchery buyers will tell you all about compassion and cutsey-tutsey fluffy whatever's................. but god forbid one takes a break from laying and these same folks are ready for chicken war and then their Doctor jeckel side realy comes out if from the huggers if they under lay for one day LOL.

Heritage breeds will truely provide the best of both worlds and they look 400 bazillion times better than the hatchery mutt. they will be healthier, more robust, and be better foragers, and You need not drop the kids college fund for these either thats just another thing the cheap hatchery folks want you to believe, if it cost more than $2.00 it's way over priced balony, just look around localy and take your time .......... you will find some good heritage LF in no time. Please don't just buy a good heritage rooster and throw him in with the ugly betty's or you will just ruin the whole flock, get rid of your junk in the trunk and buy a few of the real chickens, you will truely be amazed. The best part of real heritage birds is you can hatch better birds as well and when they do hatch......... guess what.... you won't have to make a post saying....... what are these chicks ?? LOL cause they will be good pure birds not a box of chocolates when they emerge from the shell.

Now I am sure the hatchery die hards will certainly chime in to the contrary, and that's fine but you asked and IMHO experience has taught me, shoot I even bought Hatchery stock from some retail feed store bin before for like $1.20 ea. Rest assured I won't do that again, but it taught me the difference first hand. If you don't believe me go take a quick look at some real chickens at a real farm or breeders place, and you will be floored in 2 mila-seconds by looking at them. Ok so I think that about covers it pretty well.

AL

Fabulous post!
 
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That is adorable!!! And tells me my gals have it right when they say the silky hens are the softest TP....
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Al - must have lucked out with my Light Brahmas I got from the feed store, they are a month younger than my oldest flock of BO's, and almost twice their size. They would be great meat birds, if they weren't so cute.
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I know, I am bad, they have names, and I think one is practicing trying to lay. For a week now, she has been laying beside the nest boxes while the other hens are laying in the nest boxes.
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But it makes me think?????? Does she need a bigger size nest box? Mine are 12 x 12, should I make her a 14 x 14 or 16 x 16
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More wisdom Please!
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I made a "Chicken Hook" like the ones my grandparents made and used. I never knew this was a item available for sale in some catalogs until recently.

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I need one of those. My Mediterrean breed chickens are so hard to catch unless it's nighttime. I've seen them before and just keep forgetting to get one.

I made my own. Didn't know you could buy one anyway at the time. I remembered my Grandma's hook and built mine from memory. I just took a 5 foot steel rod from the scrap heap and put the end in a vice. I heated the section I wanted to bend with a propane torch and bent it. I bent the shallow bend first, then the hairpin bend. I used a chicken leg from butchering as a gauge to test the size of the hook catch. The handle is just a wooden dowel with the hole drilled in it barely big enough for the rod; the section of rod going into the wooden handle was scored with a chisel and hammer to make sharp edged grooves that caught the wood------no glue needed. That same hook has been in use a couple decades now, it hangs on the coop besides the door.
 
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I need one of those. My Mediterrean breed chickens are so hard to catch unless it's nighttime. I've seen them before and just keep forgetting to get one.

I made my own. Didn't know you could buy one anyway at the time. I remembered my Grandma's hook and built mine from memory. I just took a 5 foot steel rod from the scrap heap and put the end in a vice. I heated the section I wanted to bend with a propane torch and bent it. I bent the shallow bend first, then the hairpin bend. I used a chicken leg from butchering as a gauge to test the size of the hook catch. The handle is just a wooden dowel with the hole drilled in it barely big enough for the rod; the section of rod going into the wooden handle was scored with a chisel and hammer to make sharp edged grooves that caught the wood------no glue needed. That same hook has been in use a couple decades now, it hangs on the coop besides the door.

Darn! Now I gotta put a handle on mine so I don't feel left out. Mine hangs on a nail by the door too. Just a wire rod about 6' long with a small crook on the end.
 
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