Chickens for 10-20 years or more? Pull up a rockin' chair and lay some wisdom on us!

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I've had animals dig it up, even when I buried it pretty deep. Probably the neighbor's dogs. Feathers and what they did not eat was scattered pretty well. That's why I started using the wire and pavers. Different problems solved different ways. If it works for you to put it in the compost pile, more power to you.

Another possible solution, if you have the land, is to take it out into your woods and dump it. Notice I said your woods. Respect your neighbor's land and don't trespass without permission. And don't dump it on public land. That is generally illegal. The forest creatures, animals and bugs, will eat what they can. Bacteria will eventually finish the rest, but the feathers will blow around and make a mess and last a pretty good amount of time. This will attract things that eat chickens so you don't want to do it anywhere near your chickens.

If you bury organic matter, it will rot. Even if you leave it above ground, what is not eaten will rot, but often a lot slower. How fast it rots and becomes plant food depends on a few different things, mainly temperature and moisture. If it is on top of the ground, it can dry out and take a long time, it can stink, and some people get upset looking at the maggots and hearing the flies. But it will eventually go away.

Growing up, I'd bury the leavings from butchering chickens because there was not a lot of it (I did one at a time, the one that was eaten that day) and it was easier to bury it than haul it far enough from the house and dump it. We had an area that was pretty rock-free so it was easy to dig and it generally stayed damp so it rotted pretty quickly. This was where I dug my redworms for fishing. I only remember once forgetting where my last burial was and digging that up too soon. You don't want to do that.

When I butcher chickens now, I leave the others locked in the run and butcher around the corner from the coop. When I finish, I let the chickens out. They quickly come by and clean up any scraps that did not make it in my bucket for burial. I've never seen any dogs immediately drawn to the area from the smell of blood, but what visits at night I can't say.

When I butcher, I use the two nails in a chopping block and a hatchet method. I used to just use an ax and a chopping block, but I find it easier to handle the lighter hatchet these days and stretching out the neck gives a better target. I just let them flop. They bleed out as they will, probably pretty well. I really have not noticed enough blood to worry about. I have not noticed any significant bruising that I could tell came form that flopping, but maybe there is some. If a killing cone or some other method works for you, great, that is the way you should do it. Do what works for you.

Galanie, I understand what you said about rock hard ground. I can usually dig a pretty good hole with just a shovel, but during last summer's drought, I used hand-held post-hole diggers and an iron bar just to loosen the dirt enough to be able to dig it with them. I was over 18" deep before I saw any moisture.
 
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Perfect. If 4x8 is too tight for 25 birds I will adjust the size as the tractor(s) aren't built yet. I am still debating size vs numbers of tractors compared to using the tractor and or truck vs toting by hand but more tractors. I am lacking the practical experience that I will learn this spring which is why I am asking you.

You still didn't tell me how many coffee cans feeds how many in 2 days
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BTW, that's a heck of a deal on the straw lol!

For 25 meaties I use 5 full coffee can's of feed, dbl that for every additional 25 or adjust as needed. they normally eat about a cup of feed per bird 2-3 times a day. If you watch a meaty in a pen it will hit the feeder go get some water walk all of 3' and plop down for awhile, poop where it lays, then do it all over again. My method keeps them on their feet most of the day, strengthining their leg's and hearts and encouraging them to forage for their food. Most folks order either straight run or hen's, I on the other hand only order cockrels, they feed out better and faster and bigger.

I DON'T !!! start them out with chick starter, the crumbles are a waste and I am out on the medication in it. I use a lower protein grower for the first 2 weeks, then go to a straight 17% layer in a pellet, no waste and they thrive on it. During the last week I do feed plenty of corn mixed in there because a good fat layer is the food of the gods for any decent cook. I I actually want to have that thin layer and pockets of fat for flavor you just can't buy and you can allways remove it, but you can't buy it. My meaties go to the large end anyway so it's no big deal, it's all about the flavor.

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On of the way's we enjoy our fresh homegrown meat birds. center split, spiced and oven roasted.

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I often hold back a good bunch of them at an early age maybe 3-4 wks, to be used as little cornish roasters, everybody loves them.

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Reno is high desert. The yard I plan to devote to gardening and chickens is 15'X50' and is just dirt right now. The coop is 4X8 and the hoop run is 8X10. I'll be planting raised beds. Can I raise Black Oil Sunflowers for the hens?
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Disclaimer: I'm not an OT, just an enthusiastic experimenter.

I'm not sure what's going to grow well in Reno , but I've observed that buckwheat, field peas and fodder radish all recover pretty well from grazing. All three of those crops also have osme effect of impriving the soil, as well. You might find you have to limit access to it. It depends on how large your yard is and what is already growing there. is Reno as deserty as I imagine it to be?
 
BOSS takes a lot of room to grow unless you double up the space by planting climbing beans around them. The true BOSS grow around 8 ft tall. For chickens, I wouldn't waste the space on just BOSS. Just plant your normal garden and they will gladly take whatever extras you have from it.

Here's a question for the true old farmer: How do we attract crows? We must have lost the local pair that kept the hawks at bay. How do we coax another to set up residency? Our state does have a crow season but I need to talk to the neighbor boys about not shooting them.
 
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Alfalfa does VERY well in the desert. It likes water, but not wet. Easy to grow, perennial, deep roots and loves to be roughed up. once established, they can eat it pretty much to the ground, and it will grow back in a week, or just run em through a little while every couple of days. Good protein, good roughage, lots of little bugs to eat also. When it gets to high or scraggily, run the mower over it.
 
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They literally kick and bite them to death. They are relentless. My aunt has a miniature to keep the coyotes from her dogs. That little donkey runs the horses around, and controls everything on her little farm. They could give two cents about chickens, until something tries to get near them. Then... look out.
 
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BOSS takes a lot of room to grow unless you double up the space by planting climbing beans around them. The true BOSS grow around 8 ft tall. For chickens, I wouldn't waste the space on just BOSS. Just plant your normal garden and they will gladly take whatever extras you have from it.

Here's a question for the true old farmer: How do we attract crows? We must have lost the local pair that kept the hawks at bay. How do we coax another to set up residency? Our state does have a crow season but I need to talk to the neighbor boys about not shooting them.

HI--the wild birds plant BOSS for me! It always grows around the bird feeders. When I see it sprouting I stop mowing there and let them get big. SOmetimes they are pretty to look at--others, a weed patch! This past summer There were a few plants growing amongst the cages from me tossig BOSS to the laying flock. I guess they couldnt get in there to eat the seeds. Four really nice plants grew up inside. At least 12' tall! They formed nice heads, fell down and the chickens devoured them!

About the crows...I want to know that answer too. There are a TON of them in town but none out here! I would love to have a few around to chase the hawks!
I am loving this thread like the rest of you! Thanks for all the info that I "thought" I knew! Terri O​
 
I think I mentioned this on another thread: to plant forage for chickens,, build a box out of 2x4's or 2x6's.. make it small enough to move by hand if you ever need to.. maybe 2 ft wide by 8 feet long.. cover the top side with chicken wire or whatever you have.. You will not be able to walk on it, but the chickens can.
set it where you want it and plant your choice of seed inside it.. once the seedlings grow up through the wire, the chickens can mow it.. but they cannot get at the ground to trample it or crop it off at ground level..
I saw a complete chicken run covered with several sections like this.. It was always nice and green,, If you had such a layout, just be careful to walk on the edges of the 2x6's..

crows are OK to have around, but they will catch and eat tiny (baby) chickens, ducks and geese.. they will not attack larger birds, though..

sunflowers are water sponges.. don't waste your time trying to grow them if you cannot provide lots of water..

Instead of digging a deeper, larger hole for butchering waste, dig a longer trench..the compost will end up nearer the surface ..

......jiminwisc.....
 
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To keep the animals from diggin up remains pour some lime or wood ashes over it. It helps to kill the smell. Also if you have acid soil it helps with the ph of the soil. gloria jean
 
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