IamSamSam
Songster
............tasted really good, too!
On the spur thing... I HAVE to use pliers. I'm old. I'm arthritic. Pliers work. Not much blood. Besides... ALL bleeding stops...eventually!
And if in doubt check out You-Tube ... ... ... has a great video on using pliers and as an enthusiast of aviary birds If you have bleeding that wont calm Use plain flour it acts as a clotting agent !