Chickens for 10-20 years or more? Pull up a rockin' chair and lay some wisdom on us!

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The adjustment is a big one. The place isn't large enough to make a good living on, but it's certainly big enough to work you to death! LIL. I'd have to get the tax papers to be sure, but I think it's 38 acres. the back part is well fenced for goats to graze some though with the drought, there's not much there. We put them inside the barn in the horse stalls at night as the fence is only 48" and not predator proof. She put them in pens with feed at night after milking, and turned them out on pasture after milking every morning. I'm sure Bryan will do the same. The front part is what has the cement footer and 6' chain link fencing. This is where she kept the chickens, rabbits, kid goats etc. That part may be 4 or 5 acres. Plenty big enough for all the chickens to have separate runs/coops/free range areas. All of that part has water sprinklers as well, and we can plant and water forage for the chickens. This land will grow anything if you can just get water to it! Just behind the barn is 1 acre that is fenced off with a big pond in the middle of it, which is fenced into quarters. This is where she kept her geese, and where I will keep my ducks when I get some.

Bryan has taken a job well testing which is long, long hours away from home, so I will have to learn how to milk a goat (I can just picture THIS!!!) and will have to hold down the fort. I was a medical transcriptionist at Brooke Army Medical Center, and am planning on a home-based transcription service. The need is tremendous since all doctor's offices and medical centers are to be fully computerized by 2013. I can take care of this when the kids are at school and at night, and get paid by the line, so that'll help. Right now, tho, we are still unpacking and trying to get the house/grounds set up. Quite a job! But we are all up for it, and looking forward to our new lives here. I must say, it is nice not to be driving in horrible traffic to work every morning, and wondering if the bus that carries my children to their schools is safe. The chronic pain between my shoulders is already gone! Ha! Ha!

We are anxiously awaiting our poultry so we can get started. I have made two pens like Beekissed's out of 2 cattle panels each, and will cover half of them this evening with my mother in law's favorite R-panel and just set a re-purposed rabbit hutch inside each one for their coop. That'll have to do until we get a couple of paychecks under our belts. They are secure with two rows of cinder blocks buried around the peremiter, as per BJ's instruction, to keep something from digging under. By the way: if you want to cut a cattle panel, a side arm grinder w/ a metal wheel on it is WORTH IT'S WEIGHT IN GOLD! I didn't get any tickets for the sparks that flew, and I didn't set any fires, but I had the water hose handy! LOL!
 


I've got a question regarding ventilation. I know I should be asking in the coop thread, but I'd like an answer from those that I know really know what they're talking about. I've got some pictures from when the coop was first being modified. (not built because we took a shed and converted it) Anyway, I'll try to use pics that will give you the best idea of what we have to work with. The first pic shows a window facing the east. There is another window directly opposite which gives good cross ventilation. I'm not sure if you can see, but directly above the double door there is a vent grill which faces south. There is another vent directly across from that one. I think you can see it in the second pic from the interior. (before we put the pullets in) It's above the roosts (yes Bee I know, the hated ladder roosts- the actual ladder doesn't belong in there)

Anyway, my question is "How can I add more ventilation, because I'm assuming it's not enough?" There is a 3-4 in. soffit ( I believe that's what it's called) that I'd like to open up and air staple a piece of hardware cloth to keep any predators out. My husband feels this will allow rain or snow to blow in to the coop as we get a lot of wind here. Or we could get someone in to install roof vents. I don't see where we have room to add more windows. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I could post better pictures if needed.Thank you. Addendum: Well, I can forget about the soffit vent, at least on the west side of the coop. My husband, his brother, and our son-in-law are out there putting a roof on the run and they informed me that they can't get access to the soffit on that side because they blocked it with the roof panels. So, unless I can vent just the one side, I can forget about it. Ugh.

Geez..I could live in that..nice!

You want ventilation, not drafts, so you want to put air outlet(s) up high where all the hot air accumulates. I think Fred has a similar building and maybe he can expand on this.

Walt
 
Nomibear:

The adjustment is a big one. The place isn't large enough to make a good living on, but it's certainly big enough to work you to death! LIL. I'd have to get the tax papers to be sure, but I think it's 38 acres. the back part is well fenced for goats to graze some though with the drought, there's not much there. We put them inside the barn in the horse stalls at night as the fence is only 48" and not predator proof. She put them in pens with feed at night after milking, and turned them out on pasture after milking every morning. I'm sure Bryan will do the same. The front part is what has the cement footer and 6' chain link fencing. This is where she kept the chickens, rabbits, kid goats etc. That part may be 4 or 5 acres. Plenty big enough for all the chickens to have separate runs/coops/free range areas. All of that part has water sprinklers as well, and we can plant and water forage for the chickens. This land will grow anything if you can just get water to it! Just behind the barn is 1 acre that is fenced off with a big pond in the middle of it, which is fenced into quarters. This is where she kept her geese, and where I will keep my ducks when I get some.

Bryan has taken a job well testing which is long, long hours away from home, so I will have to learn how to milk a goat (I can just picture THIS!!!) and will have to hold down the fort. I was a medical transcriptionist at Brooke Army Medical Center, and am planning on a home-based transcription service. The need is tremendous since all doctor's offices and medical centers are to be fully computerized by 2013. I can take care of this when the kids are at school and at night, and get paid by the line, so that'll help. Right now, tho, we are still unpacking and trying to get the house/grounds set up. Quite a job! But we are all up for it, and looking forward to our new lives here. I must say, it is nice not to be driving in horrible traffic to work every morning, and wondering if the bus that carries my children to their schools is safe. The chronic pain between my shoulders is already gone! Ha! Ha!

We are anxiously awaiting our poultry so we can get started. I have made two pens like Beekissed's out of 2 cattle panels each, and will cover half of them this evening with my mother in law's favorite R-panel and just set a re-purposed rabbit hutch inside each one for their coop. That'll have to do until we get a couple of paychecks under our belts. They are secure with two rows of cinder blocks buried around the peremiter, as per BJ's instruction, to keep something from digging under. By the way: if you want to cut a cattle panel, a side arm grinder w/ a metal wheel on it is WORTH IT'S WEIGHT IN GOLD! I didn't get any tickets for the sparks that flew, and I didn't set any fires, but I had the water hose handy! LOL!


Check out http://udderlyez.com/goat_milkers.php to make milking easier.
 


I've got a question regarding ventilation. I know I should be asking in the coop thread, but I'd like an answer from those that I know really know what they're talking about. I've got some pictures from when the coop was first being modified. (not built because we took a shed and converted it) Anyway, I'll try to use pics that will give you the best idea of what we have to work with. The first pic shows a window facing the east. There is another window directly opposite which gives good cross ventilation. I'm not sure if you can see, but directly above the double door there is a vent grill which faces south. There is another vent directly across from that one. I think you can see it in the second pic from the interior. (before we put the pullets in) It's above the roosts (yes Bee I know, the hated ladder roosts- the actual ladder doesn't belong in there)

Anyway, my question is "How can I add more ventilation, because I'm assuming it's not enough?" There is a 3-4 in. soffit ( I believe that's what it's called) that I'd like to open up and air staple a piece of hardware cloth to keep any predators out. My husband feels this will allow rain or snow to blow in to the coop as we get a lot of wind here. Or we could get someone in to install roof vents. I don't see where we have room to add more windows. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I could post better pictures if needed.Thank you. Addendum: Well, I can forget about the soffit vent, at least on the west side of the coop. My husband, his brother, and our son-in-law are out there putting a roof on the run and they informed me that they can't get access to the soffit on that side because they blocked it with the roof panels. So, unless I can vent just the one side, I can forget about it. Ugh.





Our barn was designed on a century old type chicken barn. The eave soffits are wide open for air intake. Ours vents through natural air convection out the higher eave soffit, by design. This design is a Monitor type chicken barn, 20x24, but of course, we tailored it for our needs and local climate and it is situated correctly for our prevailing winds, etc. We have two lofts on the left side, for storage of straw bales, brooding equipment, etc.

 
GaleFrances, Your basic, gable barn, with the air intake grills I see in your photos would be just fine. However, it needs a couple of vents in the roof, imho. A ridge vent is ideal, but you could accomplish much the same thing with a couple of roof vents, simple and cheap. The warm, moist air should exit at the highest point possible.
 
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Geez..I could live in that..nice!

You want ventilation, not drafts, so you want to put air outlet(s) up high where all the hot air accumulates. I think Fred has a similar building and maybe he can expand on this.

Walt
Thank you Walt:) My neighbor came over tonight and told me if his wife ever kicks him out, he's moving in with my chickens. Oddly enough, it wasn't meant to be so nice. My husband is disabled and can't do much carpentry. We have to depend on family and hate to bother them. So, we purchased a shed (last years model and much cheaper than a coop) and added a few things. I have a problem with my back, so everything is made so I don't have to bend so much.
 
GaleFrances, Your basic, gable barn, with the air intake grills I see in your photos would be just fine. However, it needs a couple of vents in the roof, imho. A ridge vent is ideal, but you could accomplish much the same thing with a couple of roof vents, simple and cheap. The warm, moist air should exit at the highest point possible.
Thank you Fred. I was thinking roof vents would work well, but worried about cutting into the roof. I'll have to find a handyman I guess because I don't think anyone in the family feels comfortable doing this. But, I agree it needs to be done.
 


I've got a question regarding ventilation. I know I should be asking in the coop thread, but I'd like an answer from those that I know really know what they're talking about. I've got some pictures from when the coop was first being modified. (not built because we took a shed and converted it) Anyway, I'll try to use pics that will give you the best idea of what we have to work with. The first pic shows a window facing the east. There is another window directly opposite which gives good cross ventilation. I'm not sure if you can see, but directly above the double door there is a vent grill which faces south. There is another vent directly across from that one. I think you can see it in the second pic from the interior. (before we put the pullets in) It's above the roosts (yes Bee I know, the hated ladder roosts- the actual ladder doesn't belong in there)

Anyway, my question is "How can I add more ventilation, because I'm assuming it's not enough?" There is a 3-4 in. soffit ( I believe that's what it's called) that I'd like to open up and air staple a piece of hardware cloth to keep any predators out. My husband feels this will allow rain or snow to blow in to the coop as we get a lot of wind here. Or we could get someone in to install roof vents. I don't see where we have room to add more windows. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I could post better pictures if needed.Thank you. Addendum: Well, I can forget about the soffit vent, at least on the west side of the coop. My husband, his brother, and our son-in-law are out there putting a roof on the run and they informed me that they can't get access to the soffit on that side because they blocked it with the roof panels. So, unless I can vent just the one side, I can forget about it. Ugh.

Do you have a photo of the interior with the chickens in residence? (Just curious to see
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) It's very similar to the shed we used and I always like to see other folks' hen houses..
 
Thank you Fred. I was thinking roof vents would work well, but worried about cutting into the roof. I'll have to find a handyman I guess because I don't think anyone in the family feels comfortable doing this. But, I agree it needs to be done.

You Tube. Haven't looked, but I'd guess there is a half dozen videos of how to. Some will be good and others a mess, if history shows us anything. I cannot think of anything more simple to do, really.
Tomorrow and Friday, I'll be up on our roof cutting in a new chimney for our new woodstove. Same principle. There's lots of videos on that too. Some are absolutely laughable, frankly, as DIYers sometimes are incredibly inept and sloppy, but always good for a chuckle.
 
Thank you Fred. I was thinking roof vents would work well, but worried about cutting into the roof. I'll have to find a handyman I guess because I don't think anyone in the family feels comfortable doing this. But, I agree it needs to be done.

I'm guessing you're in the NY snowbelt, just a reminder that when roof vents are covered they don't work. You might do some checking with roofers/builders in that area and get some suggestions. You still have to have an inlet source to feed any high vents. those gable vents might just do the job if you can open up the soffit on the side opposite the run,,,,just sayin'
 
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