Chickens with weight loss...then die

[sonhaschicks]

I need some insight from more experienced chicken people. Last year we bought a naked nake, hambergs and some ameracaunas from MM and Meyer Hatcheries. We lost 5 of them when they were about 16-20 wks old. All would have similar symptoms and then just die. Start to finish, it would take maybe a day or 2. Symptoms included WEIGHT LOSS< COULD FEEL THE KEEL BONE EASILY, WOULD ACT LIKE THEY WERE EATING< PECKING AT FOOD BUT BARELY TAKING ANY IN, TAKING SIPS OF WATER, THEY WOULD STAND STILL, LOOK LIKE THEY WERE SLEEPING STANDING UP, STOOL MORE LOOSE THAN USUAL(WHITE/GREEN)
Chickens are feed medicated purina chick starter. We add a Tablespoon of vinegar to water couple times a week, we also add electrolytes a few times a week too. We give our chickens the Natural wormer from MM, I think its called WORMGUARD weekly. We lost about 5-6 chickens last year. This year we are having the same thing with a few chickens(3) we purchased. We have only had one chicken with these symptoms die that we hatched. Last year someone thought it was worms, So I wormed them with WAZINE, I don't know if it helped becausea all the ones that had symptoms died, and I used the natural wormer on the healthy ones. ANY IDEAS?? Need some experienced help. Thanks for reading. (PS I Have sprayed them for mites, about 1 month ago)

 

[spook]

First thing I was going to suggest was worming, also could they have coccidiosis. My adult hens just went through treatment with sulmet, I never knew they could be efffected until a lab report came back.
Quite often loose droppings and "vulture" like stance is the only clue that we can have. And this can also make them not wish to take food in.
I gave the girls yogurt and fresh fruits after the sulmet treatment to regain their strength.

I hope that someone can give you a much better reply. Good luck and smart starting with the wormer!

 

[Glenda L Heywood]

I would say do the treatment for coccidiosis
as older chickens can get it also

#1 FOR COCCIDIOSIS

if your going to only feed the hen and chicks the medication in their water and feed then you may have to make a make shift pen to isolated them in for 5-7 days while medicating for coccidiosis

for the hen and chicks do this
4 TBSP OF DRY CRUMBLE FEED
8 TBSP OF WATER
ADD 1 TSP OF SULMET
mix good and feed the hen and chicks
FEED THIS FOR TWO MORNINGS
THEN CLEAN THE WET FEEDER AND PUT THE DRY CRUMBLES BACK IN FEEDER
also put the medication in their waterers for the 5-7 days

for the flock do this
THIS CAN BE MADE INTO 1 QT OF DRY FEED
2 QTS OF WATER
AND THEN ADD THE TSP OF SULMET


FOR HEN AND CHICKS
4 tbsp of dry crumble feed
8 tbsp of water
2 tsp of corid 9.6%
for two mornings
also put corid 2 tsp in gallon of water
for the 5-7 days for coccidiosis


If using corid 9.6% for the flock
1 QT OF of dry mash
2 QTS of water
add 2 tsp of corid 9.6% to the water
feed 2 tbsp per chicken for a feeding
feed this two mornings to get the medication in the birds
also at same time put the corid or sulmet in the drinking water for 7 days
each chick get 2 tbsp of the wet mash with coccidiosis meds

speckled hen gives corid(9.6%) liquid in 2 tsp per gallon of water

And after medicating give the following things
either the corid amproylium or the sulmet will work but now you have a difficient gut problem with the E.coli
and it needs to have the Vitamin E put in the wet mash probiotic to help the E.coli gut problem

do this
now the
natural probiotic recipe is is:
3 tbsp of dry crumbles
4 tbsp of milk, sweet, sour, or buttermilk or a mixture of all or some
1 tbsp of yoguart of non flavored yoguart ( no artificial sweetmer)
mix good
AFTER PUTTING vIT'S IN
PUT 1 TBSP OF APPLE SAUCE FOR THE WET MASH PROBIOTIC

NOW THE IMPORTANT INGRIEDIENT FOR EACH CHICK FED
and add 1- 400 mg of Vit E by cutting the end off the vit E capsule and feed each chick
2 tbsp full of the wet mash probiotic and what they will clean up in 20-30 minutes
then clean wet feeders and restock dry crumbles

do this twice a day for a week
till the chicks manure is right
then quit the Vit E make just the wet mash probiotic
then once a week for life

All the while after mdicating the birds use
do not use ACV with medication

2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar per gallon of the chicken water so their gut flora wil be regulated
they should have this at least 3-5 days a week
then three days aweek after they are over coccidiosis
the vit's are neccessary to clean up the damaged gut problem
take all the electrolytes out of the water

email me any questions so you are not confused

 

[sonhaschicks]

Thankyou for your ideas, we will try it. Your directions seem very concise. Thanks for taking the time to help.

 

[chickenbottom]

i hope it all gets better for you and im sorry for the loss of the others i believe the cocci treatment will help

 

[dlhunicorn]

Wazine is only effective against one type of worm...