Chickentrain's Dog Q&A

[ShrekDawg]

Do they still have a bunch of health problems? Or are they better than a lot of the other doodles?

They’re worse I’ve heard because the Bernese structure and big bones does NOT go well with the fine boned poodle. Lots of joint problems etc.

 

[ShrekDawg]

I want those slippers. Please and thank you.

THEYRE SLIPPERS!? I THOUGHT THOSE WERE DOGS

 

[black_cat]

THEYRE SLIPPERS!? I THOUGHT THOSE WERE DOGS

XDDD

 

[ShrekDawg]

XDDD

THEY LOOKED HUGE AND FURRY AND TOY SHEPHERDS EXIST

 

[ShrekDawg]

So they say--do you have a way to verify that?

Besides, "puppy mills" ARE breeders. They breed dogs, right?

Take a look at the standards for care that their breeders must follow:
https://www.puppyspot.com/puppyspot-standards

You can click the little text underneath each of their "breeder standard pillars" to get more details.
I click on "housing" and find this:
"The primary enclosure must be large enough so the dog(s) can sit, stand, lie down, and turn around comfortably with no overcrowding or physical constraints."
(If you saw dogs living in cages or crates of that size, even if they were let out for daily exercise, would you think it's a puppy mill?)



I can find a few other sites that do the same thing, and they ALL have cheaper puppies than puppyspot:

https://www.greenfieldpuppies.com/
They also talk about how good their breeders are, and how they don't approve of puppy mills, and how their puppies have a health guarantee. And they provide info to directly contact the breeder BEFORE you buy the puppy, because you buy directly from the breeder.

And their puppies are cheaper, too.

And greenfieldpuppies lets you claim stuff under their health guarantee if a vet diagnoses a problem within 30 days. Puppyspot insists you have a vet check within 3 days if you want to claim anything.


https://www.lancasterpuppies.com
They also have you directly contact the breeder.
They don't brag about checking out the breeders themselves, although they do ask people to report any problems.
And they specifically have a page on how to identify reputable breeders:
https://www.lancasterpuppies.com/how-identify-reputable-dog-breeders
(They recommend that you use that advice to check the breeders you contact through their site.)
They also talk about health guarantees--apparently most states legally require health guarantees, so ALL puppy websites have some form of guarantee.


https://www.pawrade.com
Also has a "no puppy mill" pledge, has a health guarantee. They handle the sale, instead of connecting you with the breeder. I clicked on some of their golden retriever puppies, and they already have microchips!


https://www.gooddog.com
This one's a little different, because they are listing by breeder instead of by puppy, and most of the Golden Retriever ones say they have a multiple-month wait time. I do see a few with puppies available now. Honestly, the wait time makes me wonder if they are dealing with better breeders than the others, but I don't know for sure.

Of course it also talks about how they screen for good breeders, and require health testing.


(I'm not in a position to recommend any of these, but most of them look pretty similar to me, if I just go by what their websites say. If I was considering buying from any of them, I would be doing a LOT more research, because at this instant I pretty much distrust them all.)


Some breeders would prefer to do their own screening, rather than trusting the company to do it for them. I suppose such breeders just won't be selling on that site. Which is part of why I might avoid the breeders who DO sell on that site.

Yeah I definitely wouldn’t trust like any of those I don’t think except Good Dog. I’ve seen tons of actual, reputable breeders with good dogs advertise on there. It’s becoming more popular in the show world. So that one is good. But anything that just shows puppies and a price and no parents or breeder info or anything really worries me.

 

[ShrekDawg]

Honestly I would just find a good breeder and get on a list. It’s worth the wait. And you never know, there might not even be much of a wait. Something could happen where the perfect puppy happens to become available or something. And if you get on a list now then you already have a head start instead of waiting to get on the list and then you’re that much further down and have to wait that much longer. And even if you did have to wait a long time, it’s worth it because if you get a mill dog even if they say it’s not one, you could end up with all sorts of health and behavioral problems that you wanted to avoid. My friend has a Craigslist rescue who I think originally came from a pet store and she’s crazy well not actually. She’s really sweet and a good dogs and all but just soooo hyper and never chills. Their other dog from a breeder is calm and typical Golden temperament. I think the hyper one is field Golden or just poorly bred. You could get a psycho one like that that needs tons and tons of exercise.

 

[chickentrains]

Here I will rant about pit bulls and how people are not very smart and call them nanny dogs and big fat mixed breeds with large heads pibbles and pit bulls when they aren't.

The real American pit bull terrier (APBT) Is severely animal aggressive. The bloodline is being worked on, to try and produce some dogs who aren't so aggressive so they can be family pets, but the majority of APBTS are Aggressive and its somebody pit bull owners just need to be aware of.

The APBT Was never a nanny dog, it was made up to try and break the stigma surrounding the APBT. There are pictures of Pits with children, but that doesn't prove anything. There are pics of labs, goldens, poodles, etc also posing with children. So what proof does that serve?

In the creation of the breed, any "man biter" was culled...It was too big of a liability to have a human aggressive dog as a pet. The APBT was a prized family pet, living in the house with children and family, and attending ratting to bring in the bacon for the family. Therefore ANY pit bull claimed to be human aggressive, isn't a pit bull, or was very poorly socilized.

They also particiated in ratting events where dogs where put in a pit of rats to kill the rats

APBT's are rare breeds. Your shelter dog is not a pit. Idc. I don't wanna hear it.

To top it off, Here is an ADBA registered Pit bull terrier

btw I'm probably missing stuff as I am typing this off the top of my head b/c the internet is being dumb and wont load

I can hear the rattiling of my angry typing in my ears. Im done now

 

[chickentrains]

To back up my claims

" The history of the pit bull far predates the time when bans on bull baiting caused blood sport fanciers to turn to fighting dog against dog. The very name "bull" or "bulldog" gives us the clue as to what the original purpose of this breed was.

Far back into history - too far for us to see - man had bred dogs for gripping large game like boar and bear. From these dogs developed the Butcher's Dog, or Bulldog. The bulldog was an animal from 35 to 80 pounds, long of leg, sturdy in body, athletic, with a strong head and muzzle. The pit bulls of today descend directly from these animals."

http://www.workingpitbull.com/history.htm

"In 1835 bull baiting was officially banned. This forced people especially of the lower classes to find alternative work for their dogs. Unlike today's life of privilege the Pit Bull often leads the dog of that time had to earn its dinner along with every other capable member of the family. Dogs of this time were integral to survival and were worth their weight in gold for their abilities to hunt, herd and guard.

Terriers known for their small game drive were soon being introduced modeling the breed into a more compact and smaller package. This emerging breed excelled at all kinds of work adding to the list of qualities it had so far attained.

At this point the sport known as ratting soon emerged. This involved placing a number of rats in a literal pit for a specified period of time with the dog.

The larger the number of rats killed by the dog the better the dog placed in the match.


http://pitbullregistry.com/PitBull History.htm

"Dog aggression is a common issue in pit bulls. In fact, the UKC's official breed standard for the American Pit Bull Terrier states that "most APBTs exhibit some level of dog aggression." But while dog aggression may be normal in pit bulls, that doesn't mean it can't become a problem."

https://pitbulls.org/article/dog-aggression-pit-bulls


"DOG toward DOG aggression IS a characteristic of most terriers, including the APBT.
DOG toward HUMAN aggression IS NOT a characteristic of the APBT at all in any form.
Any APBT that displays dog toward human aggression in any form, unless saving the life of their owners, should be euthanized. The APBT is not a guardian breed and should never act like one."

http://www.apbtconformation.com/temperament.htm

"dogs were first bred as bait for bears and bulls. They breed American Pit Bull Terriers dogs for dog baiting and rat baiting purposes as well. APBT breed became more popular for sports as well. In relevance, American Pit Bull Terriers dogs being put in pits with rats, the word ‘’Pit’’ became part of its name."

https://www.musclebully.com/blogs/mb/breed-history-of-american-pit-bull-terrier-apbt

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[chickentrains]

people: whats your breed?

Me: uhhh... all of them?...

(usually people have one or two breeds they own and or know a lot about LOL)

 

[black_cat]

I should pick a breed, but it's so hard
There's tollers and berners and goldens and eurasiers and lapphunds and shelties and keeshonds and jack russells and and and-