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First off go to the site below (Peter Brown at First State VetSupply)
He has cocci meds and will ship overnite... you can email or telephone (leave a message) and explain you need overnite shipping for emergency. You may use my name as a reference.
http://www.firststatevetsupply.com/...cturers_id=&pfrom=&pto=&dfrom=&dto=&x=70&y=14
RE ACV use in coccidiosis... I have my doubts on any supposed "advantage" of this as coccidiosis itself during the intestinal challange increases intestinal acidity and whereas this is useful in controlling bacterial pathogens , coccidiosis is protozoal parasitism and not a bacterial challenge. Excessive acidification can be harmful.
One must also consider the following:
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/poulsci/conference_proceedings/nutrition_conference/2005/ferket.pdf
"...As with antibiotics, continued use of acidifiers and organic acids may result in the development of resistance in some pathogenic bacteria. Inducible resistance (adaptation or tolerance) to acidic environments is recognized as an important survival strategy for many prokaryotic and eukaryotic microorganisms..."
Proper acidification of the water in Management of (prevention) is another matter entirely. > You can only really be sure of how much ACV to use by testing the PH of your water and then add the ACV until you attain the desired PH (you can use a simple strip tester used for ponds for instance)
Yogurt is another matter and personally I give my birds live culture yogurt from day one. I do not know what specific role this may play in my personal circumstances but I have never had a case of cocci in all these years and medicated starter is not allowed here in holland (much to my dismay).
First off go to the site below (Peter Brown at First State VetSupply)
He has cocci meds and will ship overnite... you can email or telephone (leave a message) and explain you need overnite shipping for emergency. You may use my name as a reference.
http://www.firststatevetsupply.com/...cturers_id=&pfrom=&pto=&dfrom=&dto=&x=70&y=14
RE ACV use in coccidiosis... I have my doubts on any supposed "advantage" of this as coccidiosis itself during the intestinal challange increases intestinal acidity and whereas this is useful in controlling bacterial pathogens , coccidiosis is protozoal parasitism and not a bacterial challenge. Excessive acidification can be harmful.
One must also consider the following:
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/poulsci/conference_proceedings/nutrition_conference/2005/ferket.pdf
"...As with antibiotics, continued use of acidifiers and organic acids may result in the development of resistance in some pathogenic bacteria. Inducible resistance (adaptation or tolerance) to acidic environments is recognized as an important survival strategy for many prokaryotic and eukaryotic microorganisms..."
Proper acidification of the water in Management of (prevention) is another matter entirely. > You can only really be sure of how much ACV to use by testing the PH of your water and then add the ACV until you attain the desired PH (you can use a simple strip tester used for ponds for instance)
Yogurt is another matter and personally I give my birds live culture yogurt from day one. I do not know what specific role this may play in my personal circumstances but I have never had a case of cocci in all these years and medicated starter is not allowed here in holland (much to my dismay).
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