Chicks pooping blood!!! Help! (Pics)

[artathart]

I have chicks that were vaccinated for coccidiosis and Marecks and I have 2 chicks that are pooping blood. So far only 2 have this symptom. How do I treat this? There are 17 chicks housed together.....Should I seperate them? Please help! SHould I remove the birds from the house? Can I get sick?

 

[piercesdesigns]

Look here:

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=2756444

 

[artathart]

Okay. I bought some Corid. It was $22 for a very small pack of power meant for cows. So it was really hard trying to figure out how much to give the chicks. I gave them a teaspoon/tablespoon on their water. Is that enough???

 

[erinchelsea]

I'm so sorry. We are dealing with this right now with our 4-week old vaccinated chicks as well. The 2 that were pooping blood like that died before I could get the Corid but the rest seem to be okay so far after a day on the meds. I used the liquid and put 1 tsp. in 1 gallon of water. I'm not sure if the powder is the same or not. Good luck, hope it helps quickly!

 

[penut1799]

Where did you get the chicks from?

 

[smileysal]

I would go back to whoever vaccinated them too and ask what the heck is going on??? Good luck getting them right

 

[lockedhearts]

If you have the quart size waterer use about 1/8 tsp, if I remember right. Also add some powdered milk to their food, it coats their intestines. I used to mix 1/3 powdered milk in.

Separate them, but I would treat them all.

 

[JerseyHen]

I was worried about this last week and have been doing some research, it appears that the vaccines in the us are not attenuated (meaning they are live). I pulled this off a very nicely done article on Cocci: "The vaccines above can actually cause some lesions and occurrence of coccidiosis in birds because they are not 'attenuated' or weakened in some way. It is a controlled occurrence, but it may be necessary to treat for secondary gut disease, using antibiotics or alternatives such as probiotics. In contrast, coccidiosis vaccines used in Europe are attenuated. They are altered because the coccidia used in the vaccine are designed to mature quickly and have a short ('precocious') life cycle and low fertility. They are not pathogenic – disease-causing – and are more costly to produce than the nonattenuated vaccines. They include Paracox

, Livacox

, and Viracox

which are marketed in other countries but not currently in the U.S. "

Here is the article:
http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/coccidiosis.html

I have no idea how to treat it once it occurs, but another poster suggested Sulmet (a sulfa drug) for treatment. Sulfa drugs can be hard on their systems so they are only given for a short period of time. I am not sure how you would use corid (amprolium). It is a coccidiostat and from what I have read should not be given with medicated feed and can also negate the effectiveness of the vaccine (at this point though it appears that there is outright infection so that horse has left the barn). Perhaps they were infected by the vaccine and have been unable to fight it off.

As far as your health, cocci is usually species specific, with the exception of toxoplasmosis (which is why scooping poop while pregnant is a no no). Here is a list of zoonotic chicken diseases. I think you would only have to worry about chicken cocci if you are particlularly immune compromised. http://depts.washington.edu/rubelab/occupational%20health/ZOONOTIC%20DISEASE%20PREVENTION%20WHEN%20WORKING%20WITH%20POULTRY.html

I realize that this might not be so helpful, but I wanted to post what I had found for you, and I hope that your little ones recover.

 

[flocksalot]

I had the same problem with my chicks and they were also vacinated for both. When I called the hatchery they said to let them know what happened, and that sometimes the vacination doesn't take. They were very good to me and are replacing my whole order. I know that doesn't help when you feel so helpless and upset for the little ones. We treated with Cordid and were able to save some, but we did loose 11 of our original 26. It was very heartbreaking for my young son as the chicks are his. In all the years I've raised poultry I had never had this problem, but the hatchery is making it right by us. It's just so sad for the little sweeties

I hope you fare better than we did, and make sure you don't over dose them with the Cordid as you can make them very sick from that. Solmet is also great. I use that if a chicken is ill and they are back to their normal selves in just a few hours. We had a young pullet that was walking slowly and had one eye closed in the morning. Later that day she was lying listless on the floor. I mixed up some solmet and water and had my son keep dipping her beak into the water to get her to drink while I did all the chores myself. We set her in a cage with a heatlamp and figured she would be gone the next morning. The next morning she was clucking and eating when I went to check on her. The next day she was throwing a fit to get out, so she went back to the flock and has been fine since. I'm allergic to penicilliun, so I try to avoid the tetracyclens or at least the powdered versions. Solmet is fine for me to be around. I hope your babies bounce back just fine.

 

[artathart]

The only thing my TSC had was Corid powder. No Sulmet. Noone there even knew what that was. I bought some medicated feed today along with the Corid, Should I not do both? Man I am so confused. I got all my chicks from MurrayMcmurray and I had them all vaccinated (Paid extra$$) for Coccidiosis and Mareks. I am very upset. I saw no point in seperating the chicks since if 2 are infected, then all should be treated. I am not happy about this at all esp since it cost me an additional $22 today in medication. I did not have Medicated feed since all my chicks were vaccinated and I was told NOT to feed them because it would nullify their shots. Now I have everyone on Corid in their water and medicated food. How long should they be on Corid and should I not be feeding medicated feed?