Chocolate OEB is black

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by lazyoranch, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. lazyoranch

    lazyoranch Out Of The Brooder

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    I purchased 2 Chocolate OEB's from a hatchery. One ended up being black. If I keep it and breed it, will it produce chocolates or only blacks? Thanks!
     
  2. Puresilk

    Puresilk Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have been reading up on chocolates. If you breed to chocolates, you get black, chocolates and khaki. If you breed a chocolate black to a khaki, you will get dun every time, At least thats the way I understood it. I have some eggs in the bator from my pair of chocolates.
     
  3. Msbear

    Msbear Fancy Banties

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    chocolate and dun are two different genes. Recessive chocolate is only found in serama in the US. What oegb breeders are calling chocolate is actually dun. Where cho breeds similar to lavender, dun breeds similar to andalusian blue. Breed dun to black, you should get 50% each.
     
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  4. lazyoranch

    lazyoranch Out Of The Brooder

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    Hey Puresilk...I saw a picture of Rainbow. It is gorgeous! I hope it turns out to be a pullet for you. But if not, just think about how many more chicks you can get out of it if it is a rooster and you breed it to other hens! If you ever decide to sell some of its eggs, please let me know!
     
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  5. RAREROO

    RAREROO Overrun With Chickens

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    OEGBs are not true Chocolate as Ms Bear said, they are Dun. And they breed the same way as when breeding blues. Blue to blue gives blues, blacks, and splashes and breeding dun to dun gives duns, blacks, and khakis. So no that black that you got comes from the same reason that you can get blacks and splashes when buying birds from hatcheries, though most hatcheries have that as a note in the breed descripition.

    So the Black that you got is not carrying the Dun gene, but if you breed it or any other black to a dun or khaki, then you can produce more duns.
     
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  6. cochin123

    cochin123 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    i have them [​IMG] here is what you get
    ch x ch = bl , ch , ki
    ch x bl = bl ch
    ki x bl = ch
    ch x ki = ch ki
    ki x ki = ki
    bl x bl = bl
    just like blue/splash/black [​IMG]
     
  7. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    The variety named "chocolate" can be created with either the choc gene or the dun gene. Dun & choc birds look quite similar. I know that, like blue, dun gives a wide range of shades. Not sure about choc in this regards.

    With the dun gene, birds with to copies of the gene are khaki; birds with one copy are chocolate. Fawn (as in fawn silver duckwing) is also dun gene, but I have never been completely clear as to whether it is one or two copies.
     
  8. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Quote:Fawn is the exact same thing as Dun....
    A breeder of Old English Bantams didn't like the "color name" Dun, so he started calling the color Fawn.....


    Chris
     

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