Chocolate? What makes Chocolate?

[lildinkem]

I have a bird or two who have Brown feathers. Most likely a DUN version. But still Brown. I think this color will have a difficult time being judge anything other then a BROWN bird. Just like Self Blue and Lavs. A judge will not be able to differentiate between the two genetic Brown birds. So, be ready to see DUN vs Chocs at the shows someday. And I think because of that, they may never become a variety in our SOP

 

[skylinepoultry]

Great pics everyone. I would love a chocolate project. But where to get the gene is gonna be a bit difficult.

 

[gumbii]

well, i have one great holdback from my fawn silver duckwing breedings... he's a khaki roo... gonna pair him up with whatever EE hens that i'm holding back this year... i have some lavender hens, a blue... i'm waiting for some black hens to hatch, but the blues aren't giving us many hens... sad... but here he is next to his sister a fawn silver duckwing...

i also just got into serama... scored a nice fawn/dun roo too...

 

[luvinrunnin]

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HOLY CRAP!!! LOVE that rooster!!! Oh and that kakhi too.

 

[gumbii]

Quote:
HOLY CRAP!!! LOVE that rooster!!! Oh and that kakhi too.

thanks...


btw, that khaki roo isn't as bad as he looks in the pics... he has a small back, but i guess since i was grabbing him and everything, he had his neck out straight...

 

[Svarthona]

Is there any way to see if a bird is chocolate or dun or brown caused by other genes? Or is it something which requires test mating to find out?
I got a hen from a neighbor who gave up her flock and the hen is a solid dark brown with mottling, like black mottled just in dark brown.
I'm just curious which brown it could be, to get an idea of which genes she'll introduce to my flock.

 

[gumbii]

Svarthöna :

Is there any way to see if a bird is chocolate or dun or brown caused by other genes? Or is it something which requires test mating to find out?
I got a hen from a neighbor who gave up her flock and the hen is a solid dark brown with mottling, like black mottled just in dark brown.
I'm just curious which brown it could be, to get an idea of which genes she'll introduce to my flock.

breeding her to black will tell you if she is fawn/dun or choc...

if you get 50% blacks and 50% chocolates like her, she's fawn/dun...

if you get 100% black, then she's choc... but you can breed one of her sons to her and get 50% chocolate offspring with mottling like her...​

 

[Svarthona]

So there's no way to just see the difference? Drat.
The current flock rooster is giving me lots of unexpected colors and I'm afraid he's not really suitable for test mating regarding brown, since he already throws brown chicks occasionally. (Oh, the joys of an old fashioned farm flock not bred for colors, you just never know what you'll get lol)

 

[smoothmule]

Here are some of my recessive chocolates. They are Serama's.

 

[Henk69]

This is a khaki silver duckwing dutch bantam. One of the first.
They started out almost white but the color darkens with age.

Thanks to Birgitta, Sweden