I will make this as concise as possible. I have ordered about 34 chickens from Ideal and plan to keep 6 as layers, 1 roo, and the rest in freezer heaven. Will choose btwn the Br and Del roo, depends on who looks best. 25 Red broilers SR 1 Blk Australorp Pul 1 Ideal 236( or whatever lol) leghorn Pul 1 Blk Naked neck Pul 2 Barred Rock Pul 2 Barred Rock Roo 1 Delaware Pul 1 Delaware Roo Day 1, Th 8/1/2013 Picked up chicks and 6 of the Red broilers didn't make the trip. Gave them That green gel, food and water. By the next morning, 6 more died, bringing the total to 12. 3 of the seemingly healthy ones have leg issues not that are not spraddle leg. Research leads me to slipped tendon. Ideal had been GREAT! They are reshipping my broiler order and I am switching to White Plymouth Rocks as all of my heritage breeds are alive and with no problems. I figured I should switch now while I have the chance and I paid the difference. I have 10 red broilers left so I will get to raise alot of types side by side and compare them. I know alot of people, including myself, have been looking for info like this. Sat 8/3/13 It is 102 during the day so they no longer have lights. I cover the brooder with a sheet at night to keep breeze from chilling them. They huddle but still move around. Sun 8/4/13 Put some dirt with a few grass pieces in the cage and they ate it all!! Kind of freaked me out but supposed to be good to get grit in the crop and build immune systems. Mon 8/5/13 My batch of white Plymouth rocks is reshipping Wed to be here on Th. The three with leg issues are about the same and being kept separately. All of the heritage breeds are growing strong as well as remaining red broilers. All get free choice H and H chick starter dry as well as fermented chick starter 2x daily. I have electrolyte/pro-biotic powder in the waters. The Turken and BR are the smallest. The leghorn and Dels are feathering the fastest with the red broilers a close second. It seems that the lightest colored red broilers seem to have been the ones with the most problems, the ones with dark on there wings are still fine. Coincidence?