Clipped Wings & Fenced Yard

The wing assisted climbing I call clambering

If you clipped wing like you are supposed to, the ability to clamber is greatly reduced. Author would find me a tough audience on that alone.

On the whole, I think the author is getting it wrong with some of the intermediate steps leading to flight. First the proto-wing feathers played a major role in incubation / brooding young. Then a display function and / or aid in maneuvering at high speeds and possibly balancing. Next step almost certainly involved movement in trees and gliding where the wings simply gave better control without actual generation of thrust. At that point wings were still hands allowing proto-birds to climb like a mammal. During the early stages the proto-birds lacked the muscle mass in the breast needed produce thrust possible in even the weakest flying galliaformes like used in his demonstrations and our flocks.

My games can jump at least as good as any domestic chicken out there. Yet I can stop both flight and clambering by proper clipping. Bilateral clipping provides more complete denial of both activities than unilateral clipping. I may have to demonstrate this with an experiment this weekend.
 
@Natrgrl326, I can provide directions on how to clip wings so they will not be able clear, top or clamber up a 36" fence regardless if it provides a suitable perch or not. Most people are not clipping close enough for fear of causing harm. Additionally, if unilateral clipping fails, the do bilateral / both wings. You birds are juvenile so will require some repeating of process in coming months and is is likely some blood feather will be cut even if you do not clip close enough to be effective.

I disagree wit this! Clipping both wings is bad advise.
Clipping BOTH wings will NOT work!
I have seen a hen with both wings clipped heavily (poor girl only had nubs) jump/fly up 8 feet to set on a limb in a tree, next to my 4 foot fence.
The purpose of wing clipping is to set them off balance!
 
I disagree wit this! Clipping both wings is bad advise.
Clipping BOTH wings will NOT work!
I have seen a hen with both wings clipped heavily (poor girl only had nubs) jump/fly up 8 feet to set on a limb in a tree, next to my 4 foot fence.
The purpose of wing clipping is to set them off balance!


I challenge you to test this at same time I do it here. I am setting aside 12 juvenile Missouri Dominiques that will be randomly assigned one of two treatments. First treatment (n = 6 birds) will be one wing clipped, second treatment (n = 6 birds) will involve both wings clipped. Controls will be over 12 birds not clipped. All can currently get into pen each night with ease. Will provide pictures of actual clipping jobs. Too people many fail to clip correctly which is basis for process not working. I will call you out if it is done incorrectly. Test will be where the birds must fly up about 36" from ground to access there elevated coop. If the birds fail to get into roost on their own then I will provide them structures they can walk and hop up.

Pen below currently with a much larger top.
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I have a one armed game hen that can just barely get here self onto a 36" roost and that remaining wing is essential for that. She is a stronger jumper than birds to be clipped shortly. Hopefully this effort will lead to fewer chickens lost by their escaping protective containment.
 
I know turkeys are different but I had a male bronze turkey and he was a brut of a bird I clipped one wing and he was still able to get over a 4.5foot wall with easy
 
Btw his grandson can only jump small fences but I didn't clip his wings yet as he doesn't jump over the fence he's happy where he is with his friends
 
Very interested in your experiment. I thought the video was very interesting. I do believe there were probably many different intermediary steps to the evolution of flight. It's all a guessing game anyway, albeit an educated one.
 

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