Cocci??

[Aoife123]

Hey everyone. I Bought some pullets a couple of day ago. When putting them up on the roost last night I noticed that one was very very thin. She is a legbar x cuckoo maran and is fairly small.

I noticed her earlier that day drinking a lotbof water( it was fairly warm out) then spitting water up when she went to eat her pellets.
I had put it down to drinking too much water.

The other pullet is a bit on the thin side aswell but not as bad.

Both pullets and eating and drinking well and perfectly active. No signs of illness.

I have noticed that the skinny pullets crop feels a bit full and doughy. There is no impaction and its not full of fluid.

I saw some concerning poop under the roosts where I had put them up the night before (pic attached).

Do you think this looks like cocci?

I have separated the 2 pullets in a separate run and started them on coxoid. Hopefully that sorts them out. If not I'm going to worm the 2 pullets.

I don't know much about the pullets prior to buying them except for they were in outdoor runs and he kept over 100 birds. I wouldn't say they have ever been wormed or treated for cocci. I'm not sure what they were fed or how much. They might just have been under fed but the poop definatley doesn't look right.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

 

[Debbie292d]

I would definitely continue the treatment for coccidiosis.

How old are they? Since you said they were perching, I presume a few weeks old.

I'd try make them a dish of wet chick crumbles, like a mash out of them. Our birds young and old really like that. That'll help get some more nourishment into them, as would some added vitamins after you're done treating them. We use mostly Poultry Cell here, like every other day for a week or two until they seem healthier, then just once a week after that. Don't start any vitamin regimens until after the coccidiosis treatment is done, though.

 

[coach723]

Complete the treatment for coccidiosis, do the full round, don't stop no matter how good they look. Once that is complete if you are still seeing droppings like that, and are not seeing weight gain (I would weigh them regularly until you know) then I would go ahead and worm them.

 

[Aoife123]

Complete the treatment for coccidiosis, do the full round, don't stop no matter how good they look. Once that is complete if you are still seeing droppings like that, and are not seeing weight gain (I would weigh them regularly until you know) then I would go ahead and worm them.

So I did a full 7 days of coxoid. I then did 3 consecutive days of worming with fenbenazole and I'm not seeing immediate results. Should I be seeing immediate results. I've got roosting bars over a poop shelf that I clean everyday and I've had to put the pullets up every night so I know where they have rooster and what's under the roost is disgusting it's stinks! Lots of red intestinal shedding, stringy, slimey anf stinky. I've popped them into a cage for now just so I can keep a better eye on them. I notice they are laying down a lot so I imagine whatever it is is definitely bothering them.

There had been no worms in the poop after worming I usually see worms in the droppings after worming the hens.

I toom away their feed last night and checked their crop thos morning before feeding them as I was concerned the very thin hen had a squishy sort of crop but all good on the crop side, both perfectly empty thos morning and both hungry and eating well.

Do I just need to give it more time for the inflammation to came assuming it was cocci?

I've got 2 more pullets on coxoid at the minute as there was other questionable droppings from some other new pullets. I will worm them aswell once the cocci treatment in done.

I've got 5 more younger chicks that I will do the same thing with. The droppings fromvthe rest of my hens are normal.

On another probably unrelated note. I did have a couple of hens dropping shelless eggs in the roost and laying thin shelled eggs in the nest box. Seems to be 2 hens in particular. But sometimes the egg is perfect with a good shell. I'm feeding a chick starter to the whole fock just because I have a mix of ages and roosters all together but the hens always have access to plenty of oyster shell and they are eating the oyster shell and lots of it.

I've added a shell enhacer to their water for a couple of days just to give them a boost. But the problem is ongoing. One hen seems perfectly healthy the other has had a respiratory problem for a couple of months now. I have treated her with antibiotics for this but it did not help.

I can understand the hen with the respiratory issue laying shelless eggs as there is obviously something going on with her.

The other hen however is strange, I think she is the same hen that lays a good few double yolkers. Is this just a bit of a blip in her reproductive system or is there anything I can do? I've got 10 other hens laying currently and no issues with soft eggs or bad shells.