Color of this foal?

[Duck_life]

I bought this foal and his mama. Sire is either the chestnut they had or the black. Theyre not sure though. Opinions are appreciated. I was thinking a buckskin type color but not positive. His sister is a liver chestnut so is it lossible his color can go that? What color do you think he can grow into? Thanks. (Mother is a paint (light black and brown spotting) this is not my place either*

 

[oldhenlikesdogs]

Does it have a dorsal strip? It's cute, that's for sure.

 

[HalfWayUpAMountain]

I would call that a Dun colouring ? He is a looker - congrats !

 

[littledog]

Are the two possible sires paints as well? Is his sister by the chestnut, if they know?

My guess is that his fur will come out darker, like on his neck, and he will turn out to look a lot like his mother. But the color of his mane and tail makes me suspect his sire is the chestnut. I'd have to see pictures of the stallions to make a better guess, though.

 

[Shezadandy]

Usually the hairs around the eyes when they're that young and outgrowing their baby fuzz will tell the tale (tail!)

Looks like it will be a chestnut (which to me is a huge range of browns) with lots of chrome, no black on legs/mane/tail/body. Dad wise - if the black stallion is a carrier of the chestnut gene, he can easily throw chestnut (no black regardless of whether the dun gene is present) progeny.

If the black stallion's father or mother were chestnut, it's definitely a carrier.

To me "buckskin" would have black mixed in, but I'm rusty on the finer points.

 

[Painted Calls]

Almost looks as if it has a silver dilution gene working there.

This liver chestnut... Are you sure it wasn't a black or bay silver?

Mom looks like a Black sabino. Does the foal have a dorsal stripe? Mom could also be grulla (can't tell easily with all white across back, shoulders and legs) and that could explain the baby's color.

The lighter color you see on his body is just his foal coat. The darker area on his face is where his big boy color is shining through.

You can't get a buckskin from black/chestnut or black/black.

 

[Bunnylady]

Definitely not a Dun - in the third picture, you can see enough of the baby's back and backside to see that there is no dorsal stripe.

Horse babies display a form of cryptic coloration where the foals are usually born a lot lighter than the color they will be as adults. As @Shezadandy said, the foal fuzz usually starts shedding out around the eyes, so the mature color tends to show up there first, gradually spreading down the face and neck. If the horse standing behind the foal in the third picture is the sister you spoke of, I think he'll probably wind up looking a lot like her. His mane and tail are pretty light right now, but the mane clearly has dark roots; they will probably get a lot darker as the hair gets longer . . . though it's possible that Silver could be in play here.

As @Overo Mare pointed out, for the baby to be a Buckskin, one parent would have to be either a cream or dun dilution, and Chestnut and Black are not dilute colors. The few colored areas the mare has don't really appear to be diluted, either, though I suppose she might be a Smoky Black (a genetic Black with the Cream gene), in which case, that seems likely to be the foal's color, too.

Incidentally, with those "high whites" on the legs and white on the head and neck, this baby has enough white to qualify for Pinto registration (Paint is a registry, not a color, exclusively for horses with Quarter Horse and/or Thoroughbred ancestry). Being a registered Pinto wouldn't really change an animal's value, but some shows are persnickety, and want some kind of registration on any animal entered, even for those events that are all about performance, not conformation.

 

[Painted Calls]

Definitely not a Dun - in the third picture, you can see enough of the baby's back and backside to see that there is no dorsal stripe.

Horse babies display a form of cryptic coloration where the foals are usually born a lot lighter than the color they will be as adults. As @Shezadandy said, the foal fuzz usually starts shedding out around the eyes, so the mature color tends to show up there first, gradually spreading down the face and neck. If the horse standing behind the foal in the third picture is the sister you spoke of, I think he'll probably wind up looking a lot like her. His mane and tail are pretty light right now, but the mane clearly has dark roots; they will probably get a lot darker as the hair gets longer . . . though it's possible that Silver could be in play here.

As @Overo Mare pointed out, for the baby to be a Buckskin, one parent would have to be either a cream or dun dilution, and Chestnut and Black are not dilute colors. The few colored areas the mare has don't really appear to be diluted, either, though I suppose she might be a Smoky Black (a genetic Black with the Cream gene), in which case, that seems likely to be the foal's color, too.

She does appear to be a smoky black. That would explain OP's description of the mare's color.

 

[LizzzyJo]

Beautiful!!! Not a dun. Can you post a close up pic of his eyes? For the fur coloring around them. You’ve gotta see what eye liner he’s sporting

 

[NatJ]

You can't get a buckskin from black/chestnut or black/black.

Actually, you CAN sometimes get a buckskin from a black/chestnut pairing.
You need black (from the black parent).
Plus agouti to make it bay (would have to come from the chestnut parent, who can have it without showing it)
Plus the cream gene (can be carried by the black without showing it--"smoky black")

So possible, but depends on each parent having a particular gene that you can't tell by looking at them.

I don't know what color the foal is, just talking about the genetics here