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[Pozees]

easter egger anomaly

I had to isolate another of my almost ready to lay easter eggers yesterday. this is a different line (not wendel's #1) than my other one. I found her in the coop yesterday doing that weazing breathing thing that my other one did. I did the same treatment I did last time... take some activated oxine and give it to her in a diluted form... 3 drops with a 1 to 100 dilution and put her in a room with a humidifier with activate oxine in the water and closed her up overnight. Before I do that, I hold her to the warm steam and let her breathe it for a few minutes. I then put her in the carrier and let her rest. I restrict her food to kefir cheese because it has awesome probiotics and let her rest.

Today, she is fine. I'll keep her in there another few hours before I let her out. I may do a quick dewormer as a preventative but am not sure yet

I've never had this issue with any other breed of chicken. I don't even know what the problem is exactly. If I go online with these symptoms, they say it is a severe respiratory infection and to get her seen immediately. but this is the second time I've had an easter egger do this and both times, doing what I do brings about significant improvement in hours. surely a severe respiratory infection can't go away that quickly can it?

Also, if it were a respiratory issue, wouldn't i have other hens with issues? I hear no other hens with any congestion sounds. Tonight and for the next 7 days, I'll do an oxine treatment at night just to make sure but I don't hear anything out of the ordinary. The poo is starting to firm up but it's still softer than I'd like. The weazer ee's poo looks fine.

I guess I'm thinking it's just something weird with the breed? I guess if I wanted to do a control, if another one has it happen, I could let it take its course but suspect if I did that, eventually the hen would just die from the exhaustion. Labored breathing is hard on the hen when it goes on for hours and hours.

anyhoo, just passing along something I've noticed from my flock.

I agree, you would be seeing others with symptoms if it was some infectious problem, so it sounds like something congenital specific to that line of EEs, and it also sounds like you have managed to correct it. What does oxine do? I'm not familiar with it.

 

[Pozees]

I agree, you would be seeing others with symptoms if it was some infectious problem, so it sounds like. something congenital specific to that line of EEs, and it also sounds like you have managed to correct it. What does oxine do? I'm not familiar with it.

Oh wait my boo boo, you said it was from a different line than the first one the had the problem. Hmm. I've never had EEs and don't think I've read of anything like this before but I wonder if it's possible there is a common ancestry between them somewhere that carries a known problem that maybe is recessive and only comes through in certain combinations? I need an emoticon for grasping at straws

 

[wsmith]

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[wsmith]

Got my plucker parts in yesterday!

 

[coloradogal]

Oh wait my boo boo, you said it was from a different line than the first one the had the problem. Hmm. I've never had EEs and don't think I've read of anything like this before but I wonder if it's possible there is a common ancestry between them somewhere that carries a known problem that maybe is recessive and only comes through in certain combinations? I need an emoticon for grasping at straws

That is what my first one sounded like and the second sounded like. Even after I first notice the weazing, it takes another 8 or 10 hours for it to start to lessen. Usually after about a day it goes away and you get the below video.

Thus the reason I worry that if I do nothing, the chicken will die from exhaustion. The last gal I separated drank almost 2 oz of water in a little over 12 hours and emptied a small dish of food. They can't eat or drink while they are doing this.

Oxine is known in the human community as MMS. It is chlorine dioxide and is wonderful for cleaning, water purification, getting rid of scents, keeping water towers biofilm free, etc. I take a couple of drops internally when I'm starting to get sick.

Bairo has a great page on it here. https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/bairos-member-page I had never heard of oxine before but knew of MMS. Then someone here mentioned Oxine and I found my way to Bairo's page and realized that Oxine is the same as MMS. Do a search on either MMS or Oxine and respiratory issues with chickens. Many people have had incredible success with Oxine in chickens when they start having respiratory issues. I have no way to verify if she had a respiratory issue or whether it was something else so I don't know for sure if Oxine helped. I do know that it didn't hurt.

mayah

 

[Minchi]

Looks like an all nighter at work... I miss my girls. I let them out, go to work, and by the time I get home they are ready for me to secure their cage. ( I needed to pout)

 

[gardendufus]

I'll help Minchi

 

[gardendufus]

Too funny. My Shepherd has always been attentive to my TV set. In particular, if she hears dogs on the TV she always comes to attention, and watches the set, whines, never laying back down until the animal sights, sounds are gone.

Tonight I'm watching a DVD. In the background all of a sudden, the sounds of a chicken flock clucking away. Up sits my Shepherd, runs to the TV, sticks her nose to the screen, whines, all the usual reactions. Too funny.

 

[Pozees]

Too funny. My Shepherd has always been attentive to my TV set. In particular, if she hears dogs on the TV she always comes to attention, and watches the set, whines, never laying back down until the animal sights, sounds are gone.

Tonight I'm watching a DVD. In the background all of a sudden, the sounds of a chicken flock clucking away. Up sits my Shepherd, runs to the TV, sticks her nose to the screen, whines, all the usual reactions. Too funny.

LOL - our cats do that when they hear kittens on TV or if Bob finds some "must see" kitty video online They don't respond to the chicken sounds yet, but I expect it's a matter of time.

 

[Pozees]

That is what my first one sounded like and the second sounded like. Even after I first notice the weazing, it takes another 8 or 10 hours for it to start to lessen. Usually after about a day it goes away and you get the below video.

Thus the reason I worry that if I do nothing, the chicken will die from exhaustion. The last gal I separated drank almost 2 oz of water in a little over 12 hours and emptied a small dish of food. They can't eat or drink while they are doing this.

Oxine is known in the human community as MMS. It is chlorine dioxide and is wonderful for cleaning, water purification, getting rid of scents, keeping water towers biofilm free, etc. I take a couple of drops internally when I'm starting to get sick.

Bairo has a great page on it here. https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/bairos-member-page I had never heard of oxine before but knew of MMS. Then someone here mentioned Oxine and I found my way to Bairo's page and realized that Oxine is the same as MMS. Do a search on either MMS or Oxine and respiratory issues with chickens. Many people have had incredible success with Oxine in chickens when they start having respiratory issues. I have no way to verify if she had a respiratory issue or whether it was something else so I don't know for sure if Oxine helped. I do know that it didn't hurt.

mayah

Interesting! Bairo describes Oxine as killing infectious agents as well as molds, and after listening to your poor girl (thank goodness she's okay!) I wondered whether she might have consumed something that didn't pass her crop normally and created growth or a blockage which was cleared by the Oxine - and it seems to me you are right, she would not have been able to eat/drink enough to survive without your intervention. It is possible the disinfectant action coupled with what sounds like anti-inflammatory actions, followed by rapid consumption of water, could have been enough to clear the crop and eliminate the problem?