Composting tips needed!

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i know this could go under multiple different forums like coop and run and even gardening but I have it in my run so here it is lol. Anyways I started a compost pile full of hay and wood chips rotten apples seeds meat bones leaves grass twigs egg shells whole corn and tons of water. Im planning on adding coal soon. Also just anyone doing this as well to help feed their chickens and make compost tell me what all you add and how to improve it. I’m new to this and wanna start off right. Also Will it freeze up? I know I have to keep turning it . I’m hoping this will help me become more self sustainable and more eco friendly and help with feed costs.
 
I am in West Virginia and it will probably try freezing at night but if I turn it in the mornings and add water back on it has been staying loose. The chickens help with that.
 
If your pile is big enough you will probably be able to keep it active. I generally cold compost. Hot composting is too much work for me personally. Sounds like you have a good system going.
@lazy gardener , any tips.
 
Anyways I started a compost pile full of hay and wood chips rotten apples seeds meat bones leaves grass twigs egg shells whole corn and tons of water. Im planning on adding coal soon.

Scott, generally animal products are kept out of a compost pile. the main reason being that you don't want to attract predators or vermin. An other reason for eliminating meat products from the compost pile IMO is that you may end up with some pathogens that do not get killed off by the heat of the pile. I'm a little perplexed by your addition of coal. What do you mean? What kind of coal? A little bit of stove ash is fine, but just a dusting. Any more of that can swing the pH of the heap to be too alkaline. Whole corn? Are you talking about corn cobs, or whole corn kernels, or perhaps the corn stalks? I'd avoid putting much corn kernels in the heap for the same reason. You don't want it to be a haven for vermin. A bit of corn or scratch is ok to keep the chickens turning the pile. But, they will most likely work the pile anyways. As for water, only add enough to keep it as damp as a wrung out sponge. Too much water will cause the pile to go anaerobic. It will smell like a septic tank, and will be growing some nasty bacteria that you don't want in your run.

In order for a pile to cook well, it needs to be a minimum of 1 cubic yard. You need to balance your high carbon materials with the correct amount of high nitrogen materials. I do not know what the right ratio is, and it matters somewhat what the materials are. But you will need more carbon than nitrogen.

Also, turning it daily is too much attention! (IMO) You need to allow the bacteria to work. When you turn the pile, oxygen is incorporated. That feeds the bacteria and fungi, and they go to work, and multiply. This is what causes the pile to heat up. If you turn it too often, the middle of the pile never gets to heat up, and the material does not stay at an optimum temperature for the composting to happen!

A compost or deep litter in the run is a good thing. I start one in my winter run every year. I build it quite high, and by spring, it has cooked down into some lovely compost. Every shovel full has literally hundreds of worms in it.
 
You need to balance your high carbon materials with the correct amount of high nitrogen materials. I do not know what the right ratio is, and it matters somewhat what the materials are. But you will need more carbon than nitrogen.
This link says 25-30 units of Carbon for 1 unit of Nitrogen. If the pile gets too much Nitrogen it smells like an outhouse, if you get too much Carbon, it just slows down the process. I would lean towards the too much carbon side of things when in doubt.
The link also has rough C to N ratios of commonly composted "stuff" so you can get a feel for exactly what you need to toss in.

For example, I have access to manure covered hay...
Manure is 15:1 so way too much Nitrogen
Hay is 25:1 so on the low end of the recomendation
I would need something to bring my carbon up...
I could add some leaves at 60:1 but more likely, I would use sawdust (from cleaning stalls) at 325:1.

As you can see, I would need a VERY small amount of sawdust to even it back out.

https://www.planetnatural.com/composting-101/making/c-n-ratio/
 
Okay thank you so much I just started this week so I’m very new so I knew I was doing some things wrong I will read up more but thank you for your post! I added coal already burned mixed with wood ash to collect Odder. And I will avoid meat products and such I have a little pile going I know it’s working some cause it steams up I will turn less and watch out on what I put in. I have pine shaving and hay. I added just scratch corn in there and some seeds that will start sprouting if they get hot enough to maybe add in some sprouts in their diets.
 
Okay thank you so much I just started this week so I’m very new so I knew I was doing some things wrong I will read up more but thank you for your post! I added coal already burned mixed with wood ash to collect Odder. And I will avoid meat products and such I have a little pile going I know it’s working some cause it steams up I will turn less and watch out on what I put in. I have pine shaving and hay. I added just scratch corn in there and some seeds that will start sprouting if they get hot enough to maybe add in some sprouts in their diets.
You really can't turn a compost pile too much, they LOVE oxygen and the more of it you can get in there by turning, the hotter the pile will get. I've worked on compost piles that were hot to the point of steaming when you opened them up even though there was snow on the ground and they were growing ornamental sweet potato vines in the piles (hot house plant) from clippings and root balls we trashed and put in the pile.
 
There is a fellow who was doing just that: he was putting whole grain seeds in his leaf piles. The piles held enough heat and moisture to sprout the seeds. So the birds got lots of benefit from those composting leaf piles, while they added their own high nitrogen nuggets to the mix. Win/win/win. Every one was happy!
 

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