Confused about breed and unsure about gender

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So when I bought this group of 10 babies, I was informed that they only sell pullets. I was like Ok cool, with the margin of error of course. and she, quite seriously, informed me that there would be not a single cockerel, guaranteed. I didn’t want to argue, so I just moved on.
I say that because she also said that these blue babes were Sapphire Gems. She seemed unsure, but they were beautiful so I got four of them. I’m beginning to think they aren’t sapphire gems, but I have no clue what breed they could be.
Additionally, I am wondering if three are cockerels, given the comb and waddle situations.
The first pic is of three of them, two with comb and waddles, and the one without. The other pic is of the one not featured in the first pic.
Also, the ones with waddles and combs keep doing a challenge type thing. Their neck feathers stand up, they are leaned forward at each other, and then they jump and kick each other.
Do I have 3 cockerels here? Or just a late blooming hen that doesn’t have comb or waddles yet? Also what birds are these?
 

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So when I bought this group of 10 babies, I was informed that they only sell pullets. I was like Ok cool, with the margin of error of course. and she, quite seriously, informed me that there would be not a single cockerel, guaranteed. I didn’t want to argue, so I just moved on.
I say that because she also said that these blue babes were Sapphire Gems. She seemed unsure, but they were beautiful so I got four of them. I’m beginning to think they aren’t sapphire gems, but I have no clue what breed they could be.
Additionally, I am wondering if three are cockerels, given the comb and waddle situations.
The first pic is of three of them, two with comb and waddles, and the one without. The other pic is of the one not featured in the first pic.
Also, the ones with waddles and combs keep doing a challenge type thing. Their neck feathers stand up, they are leaned forward at each other, and then they jump and kick each other.
Do I have 3 cockerels here? Or just a late blooming hen that doesn’t have comb or waddles yet? Also what birds are these?
Yes. You have three cockerels. And they are sparring with each other to determine dominance.
 
So when I bought this group of 10 babies, I was informed that they only sell pullets. I was like Ok cool, with the margin of error of course. and she, quite seriously, informed me that there would be not a single cockerel, guaranteed. I didn’t want to argue, so I just moved on.
I say that because she also said that these blue babes were Sapphire Gems. She seemed unsure, but they were beautiful so I got four of them. I’m beginning to think they aren’t sapphire gems, but I have no clue what breed they could be.
Additionally, I am wondering if three are cockerels, given the comb and waddle situations.
The first pic is of three of them, two with comb and waddles, and the one without. The other pic is of the one not featured in the first pic.
Also, the ones with waddles and combs keep doing a challenge type thing. Their neck feathers stand up, they are leaned forward at each other, and then they jump and kick each other.
Do I have 3 cockerels here? Or just a late blooming hen that doesn’t have comb or waddles yet? Also what birds are these?
3 Lavender Orpington cockerels.
 
There's only a 95% accuracy with sexed chickens and fluffier breeds such as orpingtons are usually sold unsexed as straight run. You have a Barred Plymouth Rock, 2 easter eggers, a rhode island red (?) And 3 lavender orpington cockerel.
 
In the first pic from L to R ... I see Rhode Island Red (pullet), Lavender Orpington (pullet), Lavender Orpinging (cockerel, under the tree), Barred Rock (pullet), Lavender Orpington (cockerel), 2 Easter Eggers (pullet,one muffed) & another Lavender Orpington (cockerel) ... second pic is a Lavender Oprington (cockerel). What are their ages?

I've had pullets "sparing" for dominance ... Best bet is wait for the crow or egg.

I've had LO & RIR in the past, those single combs can grow huge ... I've read that it may have to do with weather temps when they were hatched(?). Orpingtons are "slow" maturing, love the breed ... Not too fond of RIR ... Never had any BR ... EEs are fun, hopefully you'll get colored eggs.

No expert but my guess ...
 
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There's only a 95% accuracy with sexed chickens and fluffier breeds such as orpingtons are usually sold unsexed as straight run. You have a Barred Plymouth Rock, 2 easter eggers, a rhode island red (?) And 3 lavender orpington cockerel.
The lady at the store (the same one that assuredly told me they were all pullets) said that what you’re calling EEs are Araucanas. I call them Willows, after a chicken I used to have that looked like the darker one. When I pointed at the barred Plymouth rocks, I said “those are barred Plymouth rocks, right?” And she replied, as if I was an absolute idiot, “those. Are. Ameraucanas.” Like, ok sure, I’ll take a couple.

In the first pic from L to R ... I see Rhode Island Red (pullet), Lavender Orpington (pullet), Lavender Orpinging (cockerel, under the tree), Barred Rock (pullet), Lavender Orpington (cockerel), 2 Easter Eggers (pullet,one muffed) & another Lavender Orpington (cockerel) ... second pic is a Lavender Oprington (cockerel). What are their ages?

I've had pullets "sparing" for dominance ... Best bet is wait for the crow or egg.

I've had LO & RIR in the past, those single combs can grow huge ... I've read that it may have to do with weather temps when they were hatched(?). Orpingtons are "slow" maturing, love the breed ... Not too fond of RIR ... Never had any BR ... EEs are fun, hopefully you'll get colored eggs.

No expert but my guess ...
the ones you call EEs were sold as Araucanas, but idk breeds well. Both are actually muffed, the dark one is just hard to see in the pic. They’re both gorgeous.
as for the BRs, I’ve found that each one I’ve had (these two and the one I had before) are actually very friendly. They panic with the flock if the flock panics, but they don’t freak out by themselves. Or once the panicky ones run off, they come back when they recognize us. They will sit on my bf’s shoulder or arm like my conure I used to have.
As for their ages, I’m not 100%. I got them beginning of May, but they were on sale because they were probably about 2 weeks old. The ones I bought then were as follows: 4 “sapphire gems” aka lavender orps, 2 Araucanas/EEs, 2 “Ameraucanas” aka barred Plymouth rocks, and 2 RIRs.
I also recently (2? Months ago) bought 5 more babies. 2 silkies (1cockerel and 1 pullet), a spitzheiben pullet, a red something that was injured and her leg is still a bit odd, and one I was told was a black sex link that was also injured but has had a full recovery and is getting big super fast. She’s already almost the size of my BRs.
 
The lady at the store (the same one that assuredly told me they were all pullets) said that what you’re calling EEs are Araucanas. I call them Willows, after a chicken I used to have that looked like the darker one. When I pointed at the barred Plymouth rocks, I said “those are barred Plymouth rocks, right?” And she replied, as if I was an absolute idiot, “those. Are. Ameraucanas.” Like, ok sure, I’ll take a couple.


the ones you call EEs were sold as Araucanas, but idk breeds well. Both are actually muffed, the dark one is just hard to see in the pic. They’re both gorgeous.
as for the BRs, I’ve found that each one I’ve had (these two and the one I had before) are actually very friendly. They panic with the flock if the flock panics, but they don’t freak out by themselves. Or once the panicky ones run off, they come back when they recognize us. They will sit on my bf’s shoulder or arm like my conure I used to have.
As for their ages, I’m not 100%. I got them beginning of May, but they were on sale because they were probably about 2 weeks old. The ones I bought then were as follows: 4 “sapphire gems” aka lavender orps, 2 Araucanas/EEs, 2 “Ameraucanas” aka barred Plymouth rocks, and 2 RIRs.
I also recently (2? Months ago) bought 5 more babies. 2 silkies (1cockerel and 1 pullet), a spitzheiben pullet, a red something that was injured and her leg is still a bit odd, and one I was told was a black sex link that was also injured but has had a full recovery and is getting big super fast. She’s already almost the size of my BRs.
Easter Eggers are marketed as 'Americaunas', they are cross breed chickens that have a real Ameraucana in their heritage. Real Ameraucanas are easily 20 bucks each and Auracaunas....twice that.
 
Easter Eggers are marketed as 'Americaunas', they are cross breed chickens that have a real Ameraucana in their heritage. Real Ameraucanas are easily 20 bucks each and Auracaunas....twice that.
Interesting. Had no clue.
Out of curiosity, what do you suggest is an optimal ratio of roos to hens? As it stands, I have the 3 Lavender Orp cockerels, and a silkie that’s supposedly a cockerel (growing way faster than his female counterpart that was the same size when I got them). This is out of a total of 15 birbs.
 
Interesting. Had no clue.
Out of curiosity, what do you suggest is an optimal ratio of roos to hens? As it stands, I have the 3 Lavender Orp cockerels, and a silkie that’s supposedly a cockerel (growing way faster than his female counterpart that was the same size when I got them). This is out of a total of 15 birbs.
Most people say at least 8 hens per roo, but it depends on the rooster, mine needed 12 to not overbreed the hens, some need less. Some one said on of the oops was actually a Pullet, maybe you have 3 roos.
 

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