Contemplating getting a couple goats

chandasue

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We're thinking about getting a couple of dairy goats to add to our mini homestead. I really only have room for a couple. We're thinking of building a shed that's roughly 10x20 (or larger if need be) dividing on one end for a feed/milking room. And they'd have almost a quarter acre fenced off, as well as supervised or walking on a leash time on the rest of our 3 acres. (I don't want them nibbling my fruit trees!)

My waffling begins with what goats to get... I'm leery of getting standard goats because of the size with my almost 3 year old son, amount of feeding and housing, and I just don't need that much milk. We usually drink 2-3 gallons/week. Although if I start making cheese then would I actually use all the milk that a couple of standards produce? I haven't read enough about cheese making to make that decision yet. I know I could always freeze extra milk. Has anyone used thawed out milk for cheese making? Maybe it has no effect on the cheese... I've been looking into minis and dwarfs but I've never milked a small goat so for those that have, how much milk do you actually get on average out of the lil gals and are they more difficult to milk than a standard? As far as standards go I've read that La Manchas are calm quiet goats but then we're back to the size issue. And really I don't even care if I have purebreds or not. We have no intention of showing goats at the fair. But smaller, calm, quiet friendly goats that are good milkers are basically what I think I want... And we will have to do something with the extra kids so I imagine selling purebred kids is easier than a mixed breed. If we do go for purebreds, does it matter if they're registered or not, other than the price and show quality of the animal? And what about the Scrapies tatoos and tags? Is that mandatory? It seems like a sneaky way to put people into the NAIS... On another note, I've talked to a few people that raise the wethers as meat goats. I'm not quite sure I could do it after bottle feeding the little fuzzy guys, but how many of you raise the extras for your meat?

Sorry for the sort of rambling questions. Any info and guidance is greatly appreciated!
Chanda
 
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Hi! I don't know the answers to all your question but all I have to say is YES YES YES get you some goats. sounds like you need pygmy or nigerian goats. I would prefer pygmy, I have 4 pygmy goats I LOOOOVE!! them
the housing and fencing you mentioned sounds PERFECT! for miniature goats, with mini's you could keep 4 mini's or more in there that's exactly how I keep mine I have them in an old play house and a pretty big barnyard
with our chickens ducks and guineas. hope it helps here is a pic of my very first pygmy doe at about 5 months old not even full grown I actually just got 2 more 2 month old doe's yesterday.
Here you go...
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You can see my recent post, I just got Nigerian Dwarfs. I don't have a whole lot of experience, so we can learn together, and you can take advantage of my research.

I think if you want a smaller goat for milk, Nigerian Dwarfs are your best choice.

I bought Storey's guide for Raising Goats, and 8 years ago, Nigerian Dwarfs were considered a dual purpose breed, for meat and milk. At that time they were not recognized as a dairy breed by the ADGA. However, the breed has been improved with an emphasis on milk production, and they are now recognized as a dairy goat by the ADGA. In the Storeys guide from 2001, it was stated that the average milk production was one quart per day. Average production and lactation curves are a totally differnt story. They are also recognized as a "livestock" aninal for 4H projects. While I realize that Pygmy breeders love them, I do not believe that they are recognized as "livestock" for this purpose, but rather pets.

We bought two registered doelings, and one un registered. However, the un registered doeling's dam was on site. She was appeared to be full blooded, and she had a very nice udder and teats. Her sire was registered, and his dam had won "best udder" in ADGA show.

I don't think registration is essential, but it is better if you know something about the breeding. I think it is better if you at least get "grade" animals.

If you have a small child, I think you want animals that are disbudded.
 
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I will always advocate for mini-manchas. I think they are the perfect combination of personable, milk-producing LaManchas; and the smaller size of Nigerians.
 
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I've alway read that La Manchas were some of the easiest, healthiest goats to keep. Are the mini -manchas a La Mancha pygmy cross?

The Kinders are cool, they are a Nubian-pygmy cross.
 
I had thought Kinders or Mini-Manchas would be perfect too but I can't find any Kinder breeders in MN that return emails or phone calls... Maybe they only respond when they have kids available...
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And I haven't found any Mini-manchas close at all. The Minis are the result a cross but I'm not sure if it's with a nigi or pygmy. All of which would lead to trouble finding someone to breed with as well, as I'm quite sure my DH would freak out over the buck odor.
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Do you know if breeding a mini doe to a standard buck leads to birthing problems?

Carolina Chicken Man- I saw the pics of your nigis. So cute! I'll definitely keep up with the posts for updates.

Aaronzclark- Do you milk your pygmies? Cute picture too!
 
Mini-manchas are a cross of a standard LaMancha and a Nigerian Dwarf. They can be hard to find depending on your area, but I think they will be a fast growing breed in the coming years. And who could resist a face like this?:

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I have yet to find anyone in MN that breeds them. But I'll keep looking. Super cute!
 
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Yeah, I don't think you are supposed to breed a standard buck to a mini doe.
For the first generation of the Kinders they use a pygmy buck and a nubian doe. He must use a stool.

I've never understood if they breed true second generation. They must.
 

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