Conventional non-GMO Whole Grain/Seed Recipe for Layers

I played around with some figures a few weeks ago when I had only two chicks hatch and could not justify getting a whole bag of feed (it would have gone bad before they ate it all), so I tried this on them. They were barnyard mixes - not the fast-growing Cornish cross. But they did just fine on this feed and were feathering out nicely.

This has mix is 20% crude protein. It is a five-pound recipe.

1 pound whole white millet
1/2 pound chia seeds
1 pound wheat germ
1/2 pound nyjer seed
1/4 pound poultry premix appropriate for growing birds (not layers)
1.75 pounds brewer's yeast

I would mix this with some water or milk, and give them chopped up dandelion leaves, lambsquarters, plantain, etc., from the yard. I used sand for their litter, so they had plenty of access to grit.

These were things I had around, but note they are all very small seeds and things. IDK if I would go out and buy chia for my chicks in the future, but I had a bunch for personal consumption and thought they'd like it. I only had to make them one batch until the rest of the chicks hatched or were mailed, so everyone's on bagged starter feed right now. If you plug prices into the spreadsheet, you come to more than $1/pound! So unless you have these items lying around your shed for one reason or another (my sister's finch died, so I had the nyjer seed she had given me), it is not very cost effective. But I wanted to give an example of how you can mix things together to get a good ration. Diversity is key, as well as access to fresh pasture & bugs.

I may try raising a batch of chicks on a similar ration, a more cost effective one, later in the season. But I have a lot going on right now. It may need to wait until next year.
 
Great info. Many thanks. Sorry for the long delay in responding. Work has been hectic!!!

Haha... I know so little. Yes, have been checking their crops and they do get full and are empty. I am checking their poop and it is looking great since adding uncooked grains. I've added uncooked whole oats and millet. They ate seeds from my winter squash (cut up because am still worried). Bought whole oats and raw BOSS at the grocery store with shells. About $1/# and much cheaper than the pricey chicken treats. Am sure a 25# bag will be cheaper. My chickens are so insane about food. Funny they might not want to try a new food and are very suspicious until a "brave" one tries it. Wouldn't touch oatmeal left over from my breakfast. Now they are crazy about it. At first, they wouldn't touch the tiny pieces of chopped tomatoes. Each chicken has a favorite. Barred rock now loves tomatoes; Ameracauna loves cooked sweet potatoes and oatmeal; the silver laced wyandotte is crazy about kale. They all love broccoli heads. They eat cooked beans. Easy to chop up trimmings from my food that are still nice looking.

They left the ground flax however and picked out everything else.Too bad as I think this is good for them.

Can you feed chickens too much? Do you let them free feed or measure their food?

How do you calculate the protein content? Is it by weight?

Sorry for all the questions. I am having so much fun!
 
@Dandelioness
Just saw your post here as I haven't been checking my subscriptions lately. Hope all is well with you.

Just curious if anyone knows of other sources rather than Azure Standard for organic. I get my organic grains for about 1/3 of the price of Azure Standard per 50 lb bag at a relatively local feed mill. I would like to find a source for 50 lb. bags of other seeds - specifically thistle and sesame. You can find these at bird feed places but not organic and I don't want to use conventional that may have had glyphosate used.
 
I have a feed mill like that in my state but quite a bit away. They deliver locally every two months. There is even a lady from the neighboring state who meets at my delivery point. It's very hard to find affordable organic. They may even ship via common carrier, I have no idea but I think it may be expensive to do so. They offer both organic and transitional (transitional is cheaper, they employ organic methods but are not certified). I get feed from them when I'm not mixing my own. They also sell bags of whole grains, legumes, etc. Even mineral supplements.
Maybe call around the feed mills in your state. The little guys or even co-ops rather than a TSC or the like.

I hope this gives you some ideas!
 
"Transitional". I haven't seen that term used in our area, but I think there are a lot of people that do use "better than organic" principles but can't afford to certify. That gives me an idea to check around with local farmers and see what I can find that way.

I live in an Amish area and there are plenty of small farms - both Amish and English - that are getting on board with healthier production.

We get all our meat and raw milk from local farms. I don't purchase a whole lot at the grocery anymore.

Maybe I can make some contacts.... You've got me thinking!
 
and indeed, there are better than organic principles. no till, soil armor at all times, live roots at all times, mob grazing, build mycorrhizae, and in the case of chickens, fermented feed. They will raise better animals than just organic principles.
 
beginergirl, might want to try whole flax instead.... I dont know how chickens are expected to eat "powder"... I dont get it
 
Great info. Many thanks. Sorry for the long delay in responding. Work has been hectic!!!

Haha... I know so little. Yes, have been checking their crops and they do get full and are empty. I am checking their poop and it is looking great since adding uncooked grains. I've added uncooked whole oats and millet. They ate seeds from my winter squash (cut up because am still worried). Bought whole oats and raw BOSS at the grocery store with shells. About $1/# and much cheaper than the pricey chicken treats. Am sure a 25# bag will be cheaper. My chickens are so insane about food. Funny they might not want to try a new food and are very suspicious until a "brave" one tries it. Wouldn't touch oatmeal left over from my breakfast. Now they are crazy about it. At first, they wouldn't touch the tiny pieces of chopped tomatoes. Each chicken has a favorite. Barred rock now loves tomatoes; Ameracauna loves cooked sweet potatoes and oatmeal; the silver laced wyandotte is crazy about kale. They all love broccoli heads. They eat cooked beans. Easy to chop up trimmings from my food that are still nice looking.

They left the ground flax however and picked out everything else.Too bad as I think this is good for them.

Can you feed chickens too much? Do you let them free feed or measure their food?

How do you calculate the protein content? Is it by weight?

Sorry for all the questions. I am having so much fun!
Don't over feed Flax (Linseed), feeding as little as 10% of there diet can lower egg production, lower body weight, and cause liver hemorrhages.

10% of there diet would be 10 pounds of Flax (Linseed) to 90 pounds of a complete poultry feed.
 

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