Copper Sulfate added to water

[Ridgerunner]

Both to treat for existing lice and as preventative for internals.
It's all in that thread I linked.

I realized I should have read that a while after I posted. I just wasn't thinking.

The way I read that you found it effective on an active case of lice the first time you tried it but had what was possibly a re-infestation of mites shortly after a ten day treatment so maybe not worth much as a long-term preventative. Makes sense.

I can see why it would not be effective on scaly leg mites. Their life cycle is about twice as long as a ten day treatment plus those mites do not suck blood. They eat other stuff under the scales.

Knowing you I'm sure you did a lot more research in it that my quick look. What I read is that it was approved at that time for certified organic use on crops and externally on animals. Its primary use seems to be on fruit trees and as a hoof treatment on various animals (dangerous on sheep though) but other uses are allowed.

It is also allowed to be fed to correct nutritional deficiencies. I did into see anything on feeding it to control internal or external parasites so nothing in withdrawal times, if any. That might be a dosage issue. It’s highly toxic to some marine animals and over time could build up to high levels in the soil since the copper doesn’t leach away well so disposal is important.

To me it doesn’t sound that dangerous but like any chemical dosage is important.

 

[aart]

The way I read that you found it effective on an active case of lice the first time you tried it but had what was possibly a re-infestation of mites shortly after a ten day treatment so maybe not worth much as a long-term preventative.

Yep, that's a good synopsis.

Went to permethrin for lice(tried powder and spray-much prefer the spray) and bag balm for leg mites.....tho have not been as persistent as I should in treatments timing and still have both on a few birds.

Contemplating, since this topic came back up, doing dose of CS this fall for internals prevention. Found 4-6 sizable round worms in one turd this summer, reluctantly and rather compulsively treated with Wazine. Wish I could get it together to do fecals before and after doing a CS regime as a semi accurate 'test' for efficacy.

Very difficult to diagnose and treat birds as there's isn't much good info and most treatments highly lauded are 'off label'. I tend to undertreat and go with breed the best and eat the rest. We all do the best we can.

 

[Ridgerunner]

That's a good point, many treatments we do are off-label. It's funny how some people can get all excited about that on some things yet the same people are OK with it on other things.

Breed the best and eat the rest and do the best we can. I strongly agree with both.

When I butcher I split some of the guts to look for worms. I don't know if you do that or not. So far I haven't found any but who knows what I'll find when I process those cockerels next week. Speaking of which, I need to go make some mulberry and blackberry jelly and some blackberry jam to get those berries out of the freezer and make room for those cockerels. Another long day in the kitchen. Chat with you later.

 

[aart]

When I butcher I split some of the guts to look for worms. I don't know if you do that or not. So far I haven't found any but who knows what I'll find when I process those cockerels next week.

I have done that, save it until last because of the stink and possible contamination, and never found anything either.

But I did not slaughter at all last year, gave cockerels and loaned hoop coop to a buddy who wanted to 'try out' having chickens(long story there) and was able to sell a few older birds and wanted to keep a few to see the progression. That was an eye opening exercise in stocking space, a few too many for winter here in my facilities.

I too plan to slaughter cockerels next week. Hmmm...that may be a kind of before and after 'test' with the CS. Cull little boys, treat with CS, then cull older hens later...opening intestines on both.

Good luck with your freezer juggling, need to do similar.

 

[Jacquieh]

Isn't copper sulfate used to treat foot rot in hooved stock? I wouldn't be putting that in the water.

Copper sulfate is antimicrobial antibacterial etc...and you can use it to prevent "canker sores" in chickens. They get a certain bacteria from wild birds drinking their water and using copper sulfate cures it. It can help cure Several illnesses, in lots of animals. Just Google it. It's great to have on hand.

 

[Jacquieh]

Copper Sulfat is used for treatment of Eukaryote parasites, such as Trichomonas, fungi, and algae.
The dosage for internal treatment is, usually, 0.1% =1/1000
You need to put 1 gram of Copper Sulfat for 1 liter of drinking water.

Can you help me with that ratio thing! Lol...I see it on lots of my chicken products. What I don't understand is what does the 1000 stand for? How do I know if that's a gallon or litre? I hope I don't sound stupid...lol...thank you!

 

[Akrnaf2]

Can you help me with that ratio thing! Lol...I see it on lots of my chicken products. What I don't understand is what does the 1000 stand for? How do I know if that's a gallon or litre? I hope I don't sound stupid...lol...thank you!

You need to add "one thousand " =1/1000 from your total drinking water. If you give a gallon of water it should be 999/1000 of a gallon water and 1/1000 of the gallon acidifide Cooper sulfate.

 

[Egghead_Jr]

To put it another way, 3/4 teaspoon to a gallon of water or 1 ml to every liter.

 

[aart]

You need to add "one thousand "

one thousandth

 

[Akrnaf2]

one thousandth

Yes ,yes ... I am really trying. .. אלפית