Corid dosage for young chicks

[CabritaChicks]

Oyster shell on the side solves the calcium problem (and free choice is often better for hens that are older/heritage breeds, etc) and short-term the low dose of amprolium shouldn’t be an issue. Less of an issue than treating them would be (which I don’t consider an issue). You know way more about bird nutrition though so you might have more info on that.

I don’t feed medicated feed but I do feed starter or all-flock precisely because it has more protein.

I feed all flock, medicated for the little ones if available. But I also give pretty high levels of calcium (as we live on the coral reef), and add extra protein because my guys free-range and we dont have nearly the bug content as other places in the world.

I was just saying that the op said that the feed did NOT have amp. instead just a broad spectrum antibiotic listed as 'medicated'. Which is very different.

 

[NatJ]

The problem with that is the chicks go out with the older birds at 8-10 weeks old. I've been told the medicated chick feed has too much protein for laying hens . . . am I supposed to keep them separated for 16 weeks then integrate them?

I already feed All Flock Crumbles with Oyster Shell on the side since I have cockerels that would have issues with the calcium in Layer Feed.

Regarding the protein percent: check your bag of All Flock Crumbles, and check the bag of chick starter. They might have the same protein level anyway, in which case there is no need to worry about the protein level.

Yes, I agree with other posters that the level of protein in chick starter is not a problem for adult hens. But I'm trying to show another way to check it, rather than just trusting the word of one person or another on the internet. The protein level of All Flock and Flock Raiser feeds will typically be in the same range as the protein level in Chick Starter feeds, and also the protein level in some of the special-purpose or higher priced Layer feeds (example: "feather fixer" type feeds). Sometimes it can be useful to read a bunch of tags at the feed store, or poke around the websites of several brands of chicken feed and look at the guaranteed analysis of the various feeds they offer.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I had chicks well into October/November last year and started hatching more a couple of weeks ago, so I pretty much have chicks all the time.

I'm not trying to be difficult, or thick headed, I'm just trying to figure out the best method to keep the chicks from getting sick and not cause issues for the pullets/hens that are laying as well.

How long do you brood chicks before introducing them to the flock? You're hatching all the time, so are you selling excess chicks, processing, building a laying flock, etc.?

Are you still experiencing losses now like you did last year (6months or so ago)? If not, what are you doing now that may be "working"? By now if you are hatching all the time, something must be working for you.

Exposure is going to give you some prevention, along with medicated feed, so exposing them to dirt which they will live on, coupled with medicated feed that should be a good start.

Transition them to all flock once introduced to the existing flocks, they should have built resistance to most strains of Coccidia they will encounter if you've also provide exposure through providing dirt from the existing flocks runs/coops.

They said that is DIDNT have amprolium (that they were feeding).... That is what the poster said.......... They said it just had an antibiotic (and listed the antibiotic). They said they bought the wrong one.

So I am just going by the the OP says.

Edit: so to be clear- I never said Amprolium is an antibiotic.

OK so, you didn't say Amprolium is an antibiotic, my apologies.

The OP did feed a medicated chick starter back in August (?) that contained Bacitracin which is an antibiotic used in feeds to help prevent Coccidiosis and Enteritis. It is also approved for use as a feed additive in poultry with No Withdrawal as long as its fed according to the feed package....

Generally the feed that contains Bacitracin is called A/B Medicated feed (or similar wording) which is a combination of Amprolium and Bacitracin, some feed stores carry it, while others don't.

 

[casportpony]

I know where I got it lol. BYC's Facebook group many years ago. I printed it and keep it with my poultry supplies. I wasn't a member here when that post you linked was posted.

The birth of that image starts here:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...her-damage-while-molting.926738/post-14247638

Back then, such tables did not exist. Go check it out.

 

[Debbie292d]

The birth of that image starts here:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...her-damage-while-molting.926738/post-14247638

Back then, such tables did not exist. Go check it out.

Cool to know the creator. She's not been online for around 5 years or I'd thank her. Her table has been shared I'd bet many thousands of times.

 

[redinator]

How long do you brood chicks before introducing them to the flock? You're hatching all the time, so are you selling excess chicks, processing, building a laying flock, etc.?

Last year I was integrating at around 4-6 weeks all the chickens were young (6 months or younger) with 2 - 4 weeks between different batches. I was building a laying flock and adding pens/runs as I needed them. I was flying by the seat of my pants and loving every second .

This year I'm adding colored egg layers from hatching eggs ordered online. As they grow out and I see which are male/female I'll see which I plan to keep and which I plan to sell.

The only batch I had that got sick were from TSC, all the rest were hatched from eggs or purchased as chicks from local sellers. The TSC chicks may've been the initial source . . .

Come to think of it, I had a 6 month old broody raise chicks in the yard from day one, after the TSC chicks were sick, and they never got sick either . . .

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Last year I was integrating at around 4-6 weeks all the chickens were young (6 months or younger) with 2 - 4 weeks between different batches. I was building a laying flock and adding pens/runs as I needed them. I was flying by the seat of my pants and loving every second .

This year I'm adding colored egg layers from hatching eggs ordered online. As they grow out and I see which are male/female I'll see which I plan to keep and which I plan to sell.

The only batch I had that got sick were from TSC, all the rest were hatched from eggs or purchased as chicks from local sellers. The TSC chicks may've been the initial source . . .

Come to think of it, I had a 6 month old broody raise chicks in the yard from day one, after the TSC chicks were sick, and they never got sick either . . .

So you haven't had issues since that one batch, so...I'd continue with what is working now.

 

[redinator]

So you haven't had issues since that one batch, so...I'd continue with what is working now.

I kinda had an epiphany as I was writing that. I had to go back and check my timeline. There were two batches of chicks, hatched from my own eggs, and they didn't get sick after the TSC chicks.

I guess I'll relax and see how things go. If they get sick I know the dosages to use to treat them.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I kinda had an epiphany as I was writing that. I had to go back and check my timeline. There were two batches of chicks, hatched from my own eggs, and they didn't get sick after the TSC chicks.

I guess I'll relax and see how things go. If they get sick I know the dosages to use to treat them.

Sounds like a plan!