Corid

[Blue_Myst]

I'm fairly certain my 3-month old chicks have coccidiosis. I say fairly because everyday I look at the poo under the roosts and it looks like intestinal lining in the droppings from at least half the chicks every morning, but surely they can't have intestinal lining slough off every day. This has been going on for about a month or month and a half, and I've tried yogurt, cayenne pepper, and vinegar, all of which helped, but did not completely get rid of the symptoms. I'm almost certain they don't have worms, because these symptoms started only a week after I put them outside.

So, can I treat them with Corid even if I'm not completely sure they have coccidiosis, without side effects? I really want to do something, because the chick that has had this going on the most just seems generally unthrifty lately (shine is gone from her feathers, and she might be a bit thinner/smaller than the others).

Also, the chicks are in with some hens that are several years old, and I know they don't need the Corid, so I can't put it in the water. I was thinking of making a mash twice a day for the chicks and putting the Corid in it, would this give them enough? Or am I being too cautious with using this stuff?

Thanks for any replies.

I just really want to do something about this!

 

[PunkinPeep]

Yes, you CAN treat them with Corid even if you're not sure. There's even a suggested 20 day prevention treatment. That said, i'm not sure i would recommend the 20 day method. It seems way too drawn out.

I'm not sure about this, but i don't think it will hurt the older girls to share the Corid water. I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable than i will clarify.

Are ANY of the poops actually bloody? My biggest concern, because the symptoms you describe don't entirely sound like cocci to me, is that if it's something else, and you treat them with Corid, you could stress their intestines to be more susceptible to what it really is.

Usually, they kind of fluff themselves up a lot and want to rest near the heat source... a lot of sleeping. The one you described as unthrifty sounds a little like she might have lice or mites. I would want to check on that. They can cause her to lose weight because they deprive her of nutrition.

There are a lot more experienced voices on here, and i'm hoping this very wordy bump will get your post more attention.

Many blessings,
Beth

 

[courtney19]

i just came across this thread, and an answer to this would be helpful to me too.
i brought home a couple 3 month old chicks a couple weeks ago, and noticed some pinkish intestinal lining looking stuff in the droppings, too. no actual blood... but i still see it in some of the droppings after two weeks. i think it's only coming from one of the chicks. could this be cocci? i bought come corid, but am now afraid to give it to them, since i'm not certain cocci is the problem.

 

[PunkinPeep]

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In the absence of any conflicting information, i think that i would personally go ahead and treat them....specifically if any of them are hiding closer to the heat, ruffling up, or acting lethargic. And i would do the 5 day treatment of 1 tbsp per gallon of water.

That's just me.

 

[courtney19]

well, they are 12 weeks old now, so no heat source. they are pretty active, and are eating and drinking normally. most of their droppings look ok, but it seems like every day, i see at least one poo that has some pink tissue in it. so i'm a little confused.

 

[Glenda L Heywood]

Well with all that has been said here is the thing with corrid
you can put it in the water for 7 days and yes it can be fed to adults as they get coccidiosis as well as the rest

do this

here is what I would do to help them immediately
find some corrid if they do not have it in your town call
first state vet and get some

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HERE IS THE RECIPE FOR THEM ASAP YOU GET THE CORID
THESE TWO ARE YOUR SITUATION AT THIS TIME

(2 do any of them not eat or drink yet?

(3 do you see any signs of blood in the manure?
can be slightly if first day
most times they only drink not eat

(4 for coccidiosis I like amproylium best generally corid
but most feed stores don't stock it

My friend here gives some info on coccidiosis
Nathalie Ross"

(1 coccidiosis I think it might be helpful for you to know that coccidia are
very VERY hard to trace in a fecal. When I worked as a vet tech, it
was common procedure to go ahead and treat with a combination
antibiotic/antiprotazoan medication like Sulfa products (Sulmet being the most
common) based on symptom diagnosis rather than physical evidence of the
oocysts. use Sulmet to treat them for coccidiosis

(3 gut bacteria ..............................................................................
THIS IS PERTANT TO YOUR PROBLEM NOW
At 7 weeks, the babies are still in the
process of getting their gut bacteria in order. See, they're born
without any bacteria at all in their gut. So they eat at day 2, and put
food in there as a food source for themselves but also for bacteria.
Basically, it's first-come-first-serve for bacteria. If the bad ones get
there first, they take over and your birds get ill. IF there are some
good but mostly bad, the same thing happens. If you give your birds
probiotics (substances containing live beneficial bacteria) your GOOD
bacteria will have the advantage. Those good bacteria crowd out the bad,
make it impossible for the bad bacteria to live in anything but minimal
numbers, and thus help your birds to stay healthy. So I always
recommend giving probiotics weekly from week 2 til point of lay. Then I move
to once a month or as needed. You can use live-culture yogurt

(1 teaspoon per 8 newly hatched, moving up to 1 teaspoon per point of lay
bantam, 1 tablespoon per point of lay large fowl - no more please). You can
also use powdered livestock probiotics (Probios dispersable powder
being my absolute favorite - it's the choice of exotic bird breeders, and I
also have hookbills).

Or, you can go to the human health food store
and pick up a human supplement like "acidophilus" (Lactobacilus
acidophilus), or a combination of acidophilus and B. bifidum sold to combat
yeast infections. The latter is a particular useful thing for a poultry
hobbiest to have. The addition of b. bifidum helps combat thrush.
Thrush is essentially a yeast infection that is common to birds because of
the way their crops store feed in wet conditions. Things tend to get
fungus and yeast there, and thus the yeast infection. That infection
goes throughout the bird's system and is really a mess, so that
bifidum/acidophilus mix is the best. Try to find a non-dairy liquid, and you'll
have the ultimate probiotic.

(4 E.Coli ................................................................................
.............THIS IS VERY PERTANT FOR YOUR BIRDS
In case your babies are said to have an infection of E. coli (most
likely case) then you can try putting some vitamin E in their feed.

......................................................................
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOUR BIRDS NOW
( GLH- advises using the 1000 mg capsules cut end off and squeeze into wet mash
and putting in a wet mash for them to eat

( use one capsule Vit E per bird treating and do this twice a day for a week
Vitamin E helps fix E. coli overpopulations. You know what else helps fight
E. coli? Guess:
b. bifidum. It secrets a substance that E. coli just
can't stand. See where this is going?

Nathalie Ross, Houston, TX

Put the amt of corid in the gallon of water for 7 days
also make this wet mash with corid for two mornings
when they finish it clean out the wet feeders and restock the dry feed

if using corid 9.6%
for 9 chicks
18 tsp OF of dry mash
36 tsp of water
add 2 tbsp of corid 9.6% to the water
feed 2 tbsp per chicken for a feeding
feed this two mornings to get the medication in the birds
also at same time put the corid or sulmet in the drinking water for 7 days

each chick get 2 tsp of the wet mash with coccidiosis meds

speckled hen gives corid(9.6%) liquid in 3-4 tbsp of corid per gallon of water

and after medicating give the following things

THIS IS FOR YOUR CHICKS NOW

the corid amproylium will work for coccidiosis


THIS IS FOR YOUR CHICKS NOW
but now you have a difficient gut problem with the E.coli
and it needs to have the Vitamin E put in the wet mash probiotic to help the E.coli gut problem
do this

now the
natural probiotic recipe is is:
1/2 qt of dry crumbles
3/4 QT of milk, sweet, sour, or buttermilk or a mixture of all or some
1/4 cup of non flavored yoguart ( no artificial sweetmer)
mix good
YOU CAN ADD LAST ON TOP OF WET MASH
1/4 CUP OF APPLE SAUCE AS THEY WILL EAT THAT GOOD

NOW THE IMPORTANT INGRIEDIENT FOR EACH CHICK FED
and add 1- 1000 mg of Vit E by cutting the end off the vit E capsule for each chick fed this wet mash
putting it in the wet mash

this for each chick your treating
so for each chick use 2 tsp of mixture and 1-1000 mg of Vit E
and 1 sleinium tablet crushed in the wet mash probiotic
twice a day for them till the manure is solid

and feed each chick
2 tsp full of the wet mash probiotic and what they will clean up in 20-30 minutes
then clean wet feeders and restock dry crumbles

do this twice a day for a week
till the chicks manure is right
then quit the Vit E make just the wet mash probiotic
then once a week for life

All the while after mdicating the birds use ACV IN THE WATER
do not use ACV with medication


2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar per gallon of the chicken water so their gut flora wil be regulated they should have this at least 3-5 days a week
then three days aweek after they are over coccidiosis


the vit's are neccessary to clean up the damaged gut problem
email me any questions so you are not confused

 

[ebeagle35]

Can explain the mash directions? I got a little confused. This is for my 12 week old wyandotte. I am using 9.6% corid and she preferrs to eat rather than drink.