Corn and Soy poll

For chickens' longevity and overall health, corn and soy are

  • Good

    Votes: 5 17.9%
  • Bad

    Votes: 3 10.7%
  • Required

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The worst

    Votes: 3 10.7%
  • Not good or bad

    Votes: 17 60.7%

  • Total voters
    28
Hello I understand now. I'm sorry, the reason I was asking is because @JacinLarkwell liked that you laughed at what I said, except @JacinLarkwell only laughs at me in an unpolite manner to support @U_Stormcrow in discouraging me. So I thought since she liked your laugh that it was a making fun of me laugh.
I offer the science. What you do with it is up to you.

I would *encourage* you to spend more time concerned with your birds' welfare, and less time concerned with your feelings or the latest feed fads. Once you have greater understanding of the way all the various parts work together to make a successful whole, you can then make an educated decision for your self and your birds as to which tradeoffs are acceptable, which are not.
 
Also, nothing we buy at the store, or grow ourselves, hasn't
been modified over time by farming. All the grains we eat, all livestock, and farmed fish, none are actually 'wild type'. I'm good with that! Our hunter- gatherer ancestors needed a lot more space per person that any farming community, much less our current population, nearly everywhere.
And specifically our modern chickens, nothing like their wild ancestors either.
We eat corn, wheat, and soy here ourselves, and so do our birds!
Mary
 
Only if I or a family member were allergic to a specific ingredient in the chicken food would we avoid it here. Dust in the coop is bad enough, and adding a specific allergen to the mix would be worse on a daily basis, especially scooping the food out of the can to feed the birds.
Mary
 
I offer the science. What you do with it is up to you.

I would *encourage* you to spend more time concerned with your birds' welfare, and less time concerned with your feelings or the latest feed fads. Once you have greater understanding of the way all the various parts work together to make a successful whole, you can then make an educated decision for your self and your birds as to which tradeoffs are acceptable, which are not.
Hello You know nothing of my birds welfare or if they need more of my time or not.

You know nothing of how much time I am concerned with my feelings, and if I were concerned with my feelings, spending less time working on them is probably the worst thing to do, like bottling them up.

I am not concerned with feeding fads. I am concerned with bioengineered feed and solutions to get rid of it.

I am fully aware of the scientific process, research methods, and educated decisions. I am also aware that you discourage anyone trying to feed chickens anything other than what you think is best.

Please invite your friends to my poll.
 
It depends on its source. For example, a good bit of my family has a gluten allergy. My older aunts and cousins had gluten allergies before they were really even known to be an issue. I couldn’t eat gluten without breaking out in hives on my face/chest and getting stomach pains. My husband was researching gluten allergies and was finding how people with gluten allergies go over to Europe and are able to eat the wheat products there. He then found a company founded by a couple who had gluten allergies that traveled around the world looking for heirloom untouched strains of wheat. They found one that had a different gluten structure than modern strains different than even the mainstream modern “organic” and “heirloom” ones we are usually sold in America. My husband ordered me some, baked me a loaf of bread and I very reluctantly tried a bite. No reaction after waiting 20 minutes. So I tried a few more bites fully expecting to have at least terrible stomach pain or nausea that kept me up all night. Nothing. I now solely use that flour and so do the other members of my family who were diagnosed with gluten allergies. All of my bread, pasta and baked good I make myself now. You know how people say American portions are so much bigger than in Europe and that we eat so much more? Tell you what the fresh milled European heirloom strain of wheat I get fills you up quickly without making you feel uncomfortable. My entire family has cut down on how much pasta and bread we eat now because with this flour we are satisfied and kept comfortably full unlike what you find in an American grocery store. This experience has completely changed my view to not black and white, but rather gray. Beans for instance, my father-in-law and husband have trouble digesting. I set out to research a type of bean that was much like the flour my husband found. Guess what? There is a bean called Anasazi or a “cave” bean that was found in an archaeological dig carbon date back over a thousand years. They planted some, they grew and with testing not only are the more nutritionally dense than modern strains, but they have up to 75% less than regular bean strains of the carbs that cause people stomach problems. I bought a couple of pounds, made chili with them and guess what? No one had problems digesting them. Therefore I don’t think anything that can be grown or raised is good/bad, but it depends on its source.
Where was the wheat purchaced from and what is it? Einkorn?
 

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