Cornish X Rocks . . . I know, I know, it's all been covered before!

It really doesn't matter if the breeders do tell us how they got these birds. It took years and years to do it.

I personally don't want the frankenbirds anymore, I don't think they're healthy food. I'm willing to sacrifice some efficiency in order to have healthier food.

If you don't mind not having the fastest growth and the biggest breasts, you can raise any number of breeds to do that. That chart that Chiknmama posted the link to, is a great place to start. Look at the ones that mature early, and have been named meat or dual purpose breeds. Look at he adult weights, find a couple of breeds that have roos over 6 lbs. at maturity. Cross your biggest roo of one with the biggest hen of the other, and see what happens. If you let them grow to between 8-14 weeks before you butcher, you'll most likely get some fairly decent birds. Though different from the Cornish X's, they'll be perfectly good, delicious, food, and tender if you don't let them get too old before you butcher. They'll be healthier and more vigorous than the Cornish X's. They won't be as big, or as fast growing. They'll forage a lot more, if you let them range, and that may bring feed costs down to where it's comparable to raising the Cornish X's, which, after, will eat you out of house and home for 8 weeks.

If your goal is simply good food for your own household, you might as well give it a try. Otherwise, stick to the hatchery chicks. You simply can't breed those yourself, unless you've got years and many thousands of $ to put into it.

The alternative is JM's Color Rangers, like Greyfield's mentioned. I haven't raised them yet myself, I plan to raise a batch in the spring, but I hear great things about them.

I hope this is at least somewhat helpful. We all tried!
 
I've been planning to do that. We have a lovely dark brahma that I'm very curious to see the babies from! The brahma that we processed dressed out beautifiully.

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I've got a small flock of australorps that I'm about to cull down to all pullets. I plan to introduce a dark cornish rooster so that I raise myself some decent broilers.

I dont think my cornish X australorp cross will be anything near the commercial cornish X rock crosses. BUT, looking at these two breeds, I should get a nice supply of eggs from the australorps and an occasional batch of broilers out of my incubator.
 
Wow, sooooo much to think about. Thank you to everyone who has added input.

I do have a dozen Black Australorp hens with a roo as well and an extra Barred Rock Roo. I'm not too fond of the laying cycles of the Australorps but I love my Red Stars.

I'm going to place an order from McMurray for next spring and I was just mulling all this over in my head.

Some of you have a good point about the slower growing being better for you.

I guess a good analogy is you would not cook a roast at 900 degrees for 15 minutes to get it done faster.


1. So if I have my Barred Rock Roo, what would be a good breed of hen to put him with for some descent meat birds?

2. Also, when selecting breeding stock, do I look for the biggest and strongest in the flock? Maybe the hen that lays the biggest eggs?

3. Mikarod, with your Light Brahma x Black Australorp, which was the Roo? Also did you caponize the males or cull them before a certain age?

I'm really eager to try some hatching and I thought I might as well use some of what I have on hand.

greyfields, thanks for ALL your information.

Michael
 
With the Australorps...they were around 4 months old. We kept several until they were 9 months old and they stayed nice and tender. We kept the males only with other males. No fighting problems at all.

The male was the Light Brahma and the females were the black Australorps for the breeding.
 
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I have a brahma hen in my mix - the roo is a delaware. I'll Pm ya when I get some babies to let ya know how they turn out. (won't be til spring probably)

I had heard the brahmas grow the frame fast and meat up slower too - but I figured I'd toss her into the mix anyway.

Other hens I have right now are a RIR and a Plymouth Rock (white). I have some chicks from these hens mixed (not with my roo, with rir, rock, slw and brahma roos) that I am going to butcher once they get to age/size to see carcass size and test for tenderness, etc...

meri
 
I want to encourage you all to experiment and have fun with this...

... but I also have to add that crossbreeding birds of different breeds you get from retail hatcheries isn't going to lead to many "Eurkea" moments. All my crosses which didn't involve a broiler (freedom ranger) sire or dame were easily 1/2 the size of any broiler crosses at the same age...

You really ought to get yourself some Colored Range Broilers next year and then try crossing them against your current laying flock. It's the only way to get solid growth genetics into yoru flock without yourself spendign 50 years line breeding your largets specemins.
 
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I've been considering that, also.
It can't hurt to add them into the mix
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btw - Greyfields, Thanks for all the info ya give us on here, I appreciate it.

meri
 

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